If I am the only person that doesn't listen to podcasts, then let me know, but personally I would much rather read the new announcements than listen to them. I know for a while there was a group of people that were typing up everything said in the podcasts, but the main thing I am looking for are just the announcements about what is going on directly with ns2 development, like a bulletted list of the highlights.
I'm sure it wouldn't be difficult to do, and I would actually be surprised if the devs didn't already have a list of things to discuss during the podcast.
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I agree. Podcasts are also more casual and less organised; less concise. Not to replace podcasts, but in addition to podcasts. Right?
I don't listen to podcasts, except the NS2 ones.
Having to listen to 15+ minutes of talking is kinda annoying, I'd prefer reading the facts.
Also, I doubt that news editors from gaming sites usually listen to podcasts.
Having to listen to 15+ minutes of talking is kinda annoying, I'd prefer reading the facts.
Also, I doubt that news editors from gaming sites usually listen to podcasts.
QUOTE(Razagal @ Jul 14 2008, 01:17 PM) 
Also, I doubt that news editors from gaming sites usually listen to podcasts.
I think that's the intention. The podcasts are for the people who are interested in the actual development of the game.
Something like an engine change is a 'big thing', but it's not really something you want to be shouting to the world to promote your game. 1.) It's not 'interesting' information about the game like new lifeforms/weapons/structures 2.) It's not really positive press.
I'm sure there will be plenty of announcements with gameplay meat on their bones when the dev team is ready to start the PR push.
some ppl like to listen to the podcasts and sometimes they have something good on them.
QUOTE(BlackHawk @ Jul 14 2008, 04:15 PM)
some ppl like to listen to the podcasts and sometimes they have something good on them.
Yeah but that doesn't mean the people who don't like to listen to podcasts should have to infer every big announcement based on the replies in the forum. It would be nice if they could type at least 2 sentences up, something like "in this podcast we announce we have moved to a new engine, but it's not going to slow us down much." That's all it takes. Certainly beats the BUS/Nexus-esqe "there is a big announcement in this podcast, here is a picture of our Hammer replacement."
Considering they have very little time to even do the 10 minute podcasts, i do not think that them spending 3 hours typing out a podcast would really be an option since they could have used that time to fix some minor bugs or make an NPC or something like that. I myself would rather listen than read, i'm more of a verbal learner than a visual.
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QUOTE(Mapster @ Jul 14 2008, 11:58 PM)
Considering they have very little time to even do the 10 minute podcasts, i do not think that them spending 3 hours typing out a podcast would really be an option since they could have used that time to fix some minor bugs or make an NPC or something like that. I myself would rather listen than read, i'm more of a verbal learner than a visual.
We don't mean they have to type the whole podcast out, just the important announcements. For example, "NS2 is moving to a new engine of our own design because we feel we'll have a better grasp of the technology. This will not noticeably slow development." That's all it takes.
QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 15 2008, 09:32 AM)
We don't mean they have to type the whole podcast out, just the important announcements. For example, "NS2 is moving to a new engine of our own design because we feel we'll have a better grasp of the technology. This will not noticeably slow development." That's all it takes.
Or you could just listen to the podcast since they're being nice and providing that much for us all ready. Flayra told you when the announcement was so you could have just skipped to it anyway. I'd say the devs 5 minutes is worth more than your 10 minutes, and would rather them just release the podcasts.
QUOTE(Squeal_Like_A_Pig @ Jul 9 2008, 05:14 PM)
I wrote this in another post, but I'll put it here, as well. I appreciate that some people would like more important info and less "ums". No one is more annoyed to hear my awkward pauses and meandering thoughts then I am. Believe me, we are capable of pure eloquence on occasion, as well as complete unintelligible nonsense. However, the more time we spend prepping these podcasts, editing them, and rerecording sections the less time we have to actually make the game. These are meant to be a casual, informal, and fast way of getting some, hopefully, interesting information out to you guys.
QUOTE(locallyunscene @ Jul 15 2008, 10:12 AM)
Or you could just listen to the podcast since they're being nice and providing that much for us all ready. Flayra told you when the announcement was so you could have just skipped to it anyway. I'd say the devs 5 minutes is worth more than your 10 minutes, and would rather them just release the podcasts.
Yeah but typing one sentence worth of information does not take 5 minutes. Flayra already providing way more than that with the newest podcast. All I'm asking is that instead of yammering on about a screenshot of a pre-alpha build of the map editor, he tell us that in the podcast they announce that they are moving to a new engine that they are writing. The whole "the developers don't have time to waste" argument makes zero sense because they clearly have enough time to waste to type up a bunch of unrelated stuff.
QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 15 2008, 01:25 PM)
The whole "the developers don't have time to waste" argument makes zero sense because they clearly have enough time to waste to type up a bunch of unrelated stuff.
Trying to distill a podcast down to one line accurately takes some time. The text surrounding the podcast is bare bones and that's fine.
If you want to hear about the development process listen to the podcast, that's what it's there for.
What if I just want to hear the new announcement, or, rather, read the new announcement? If the text surrounding the podcast actually was bare bones, it would be fine, but instead it's some tangent about the map editor. And distilling the podcast down to one line might take time, but distilling the announcement down to one sentence doesn't. I did it in like 5 seconds. Twice.
QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 15 2008, 02:21 PM)
What if I just want to hear the new announcement, or, rather, read the new announcement? If the text surrounding the podcast actually was bare bones, it would be fine, but instead it's some tangent about the map editor. And distilling the podcast down to one line might take time, but distilling the announcement down to one sentence doesn't. I did it in like 5 seconds. Twice.
What if they don't want you to read the announcement "We're switching to a new engine kthxbai" and want to try and explain the reasons for it and the impacts of it, in a podcast for example. What if the map editor was talked about in the podcast after the first announcement?
I listen to the NS podcast, and I find it convenient, because I listen to them while I am at work. What I would like to see is the podcast being publish on iTunes or Odeo, because I would like to listen to older podcasts and finding them I find difficult.
As far as promotion and gaming news. I do agree that written announcements go further will bring more traffic, because many gaming news networks are text based and they will quote any text and they wouldn't spend the time to transcript the podcast. But don't forget about http://www.gamercastnetwork.com/.
As far as promotion and gaming news. I do agree that written announcements go further will bring more traffic, because many gaming news networks are text based and they will quote any text and they wouldn't spend the time to transcript the podcast. But don't forget about http://www.gamercastnetwork.com/.
QUOTE(locallyunscene @ Jul 15 2008, 08:27 PM)
What if they don't want you to read the announcement "We're switching to a new engine kthxbai" and want to try and explain the reasons for it and the impacts of it, in a podcast for example. What if the map editor was talked about in the podcast after the first announcement?
So what's your point? Even if there would be a short (!) overview, just the facts nothing more, the podcast could still be there.
Like I said earlier, I do listen to the podcasts because I'm interested in NS2, but most consist of 5 minutes NS2 related stuff and 10 minutes blabla.
QUOTE(TheTitan @ Jul 15 2008, 10:20 PM)
... I would like to listen to older podcasts and finding them I find difficult. ...
They are all in the news archive (right side of the blog page).
no one is saying get rid of the podcasts, or even transcribe them. Just asking for a brief overview of any important tidbits that were discussed in them.
QUOTE(Razagal @ Jul 15 2008, 04:46 PM)
They are all in the news archive (right side of the blog page).
I suppose a simple manipulation of the permalink does the job of revealing the announcements for 2008
I agree, I don't listen to the podcasts at all... I tried to once or twice, but it's just too long and boring to me. I'd rather read the facts so i can skim over and skip to the things i find interesting..
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