Hellabeans
Jul 26 2005, 09:48 PM
NSArmslab is proud to announce our new Veteran Ranking System! As you play on the Veterans Classic server, you will get kills/points that add or subtract to your total ranking (position) on the server. Every week, the top three players on the server will be awarded special icons that no one else has. The number #1 ranked vet will also earn a free reserved slot on the rest of the NSArmslab network for that week. So if you want to win, you must play on the servers and improve your score. Good luck!
The ranking icons are as follows:

= Admin

= #1 Ranked Vet

= #2 Ranked Vet

= #3 Ranked Vet

= Veteran
These new icons, while having been on the server for a while are now going in to effect today. This system is based on a our new Psychostats system that has now been successfully recording each and every one of you now for the last month. The 1st, 2nd, and 3rd ranked people will receive those icons. The group of people who have the icons will also be updated on a weekly basis.
Check out the stats here:
http://www.nsarmslab.com/stats/veterans
RyanNSA
Jul 26 2005, 11:17 PM
This first weeks winners are:
1. Jmmsbnd007
2. Vasquez
3. Nebulous
Congratulations, better keep playing to keep your spot though
Emanon
Jul 26 2005, 11:28 PM
Worst thing you could ever do on a classic server.........If it was Combat only then it would make sence.
Edit:
The server is already frag happy, no need to provide an incentive.
Sorry hella
TOmekki
Jul 27 2005, 12:21 AM
i think we're all #1, and besides the blue icon looks stupid
Hellabeans
Jul 27 2005, 01:03 AM
The stats system is not ONLY kill based..but also takes into consideration things like points..so gorges are not left out
Fatal_Error
Jul 27 2005, 01:08 AM
Hella, I noticed it used the 'skill' things in PS, not exactly the best representation of skill. ;D
Depot
Jul 27 2005, 01:11 AM
If you're interested, I have the missing weapon images and map images you need - it would complete your Psychostats for the most part.
RyanNSA
Jul 27 2005, 01:13 AM
I saw them Depot on the PS website. I'll grab them later
digz
Jul 27 2005, 01:39 AM
This is going to be interesting

I cant wait to see my gorge spit kills tally!
I rock
http://www.nsarmslab.com/stats/veterans/pl...der=desc#hitbox
Depot
Jul 27 2005, 01:41 AM
| QUOTE (RyanNSA @ Jul 26 2005, 09:13 PM) |
I saw them Depot on the PS website. I'll grab them later  |
Weapon and Map Images by Depot was used by Stormtrooper starting with 2.0 I believe.
*updated*
FuRoN
Jul 27 2005, 01:47 AM
Nuked
RyanNSA
Jul 27 2005, 01:50 AM
| QUOTE (Depot @ Jul 26 2005, 08:41 PM) |
| QUOTE (RyanNSA @ Jul 26 2005, 09:13 PM) | I saw them Depot on the PS website. I'll grab them later  |
Weapon and Map Images by Depot was used by Stormtrooper starting with 2.0 I believe. I am about to update it btw. |
When do you plan on updating it? If it's soon, I'll hold off
Depot
Jul 27 2005, 01:52 AM
| QUOTE (RyanNSA @ Jul 26 2005, 09:50 PM) |
| QUOTE (Depot @ Jul 26 2005, 08:41 PM) | | QUOTE (RyanNSA @ Jul 26 2005, 09:13 PM) | I saw them Depot on the PS website. I'll grab them later  |
Weapon and Map Images by Depot was used by Stormtrooper starting with 2.0 I believe. I am about to update it btw. |
When do you plan on updating it? If it's soon, I'll hold off |
Just did. If it's missing ANYthing, please let me know.
NGE
Jul 27 2005, 02:52 AM
Since when has physostats worked at representing skill?
TOmekki
Jul 27 2005, 02:53 AM
my kills get usually stolen and besides its hard to land hits with 200 ping
i want a handicap of 200 frags
Grahf
Jul 27 2005, 04:17 AM
gimp
2_of_Eight
Jul 27 2005, 03:46 PM
Uhh... you're joking, right? Let me do some elaboration for you. This is
Natural Selection. You've added the plugin to the wrong game server... I believe what you're looking for is
Counter-Strike.
The last thing we needed on the Vet servers was idiots going /rank after each flipping kill.
Firewater
Jul 27 2005, 04:31 PM
Beats getting banned for spawn camping by idiot admins.
You can disable /stats or /rank. you can't disable the stupidity on an admin.
Fatal_Error
Jul 27 2005, 05:11 PM
Alright, that's it. I'm going to step in and do some wannabe modding. Keep all this anti-nsa chat up and you won't be able to post much longer.
Router_Box
Jul 27 2005, 05:43 PM
YOU'RE NOT A MOD! AMIRITE?!
Also this is cool. Chewing rt's will give you a lot of skill because you get so many points for knocking out a few.
Also Psychostats is the Anti-Smurf.
http://www.nsarmslab.com/stats/veterans/player.php?id=2048
Router_Box
Jul 27 2005, 06:26 PM
| QUOTE (Hellabeans @ Jul 26 2005, 08:03 PM) |
| The stats system is not ONLY kill based..but also takes into consideration things like points..so gorges are not left out |
Is there any information on how score is taken into account? How much would commanding increase your rank? A commander can easily have twice the score of everybody else on his team. Does the value for comm wins matter?
questions questions.
NGE
Jul 27 2005, 07:24 PM
We use the same computer, and even though I have my own steam account, I rarely feel like logging in and out to change it.
Router_Box
Jul 27 2005, 07:36 PM
Yeah, I thought that would be the case.
RyanNSA
Jul 27 2005, 07:52 PM
| QUOTE (2 of Eight @ Jul 27 2005, 10:46 AM) |
Uhh... you're joking, right? Let me do some elaboration for you. This is Natural Selection. You've added the plugin to the wrong game server... I believe what you're looking for is Counter-Strike.
The last thing we needed on the Vet servers was idiots going /rank after each flipping kill. |
First of all, there is no /rank. That is the difference between a log compiling program (like psychostats) and a server plugin like statsme. Please visit www.google.com and look them up.
Secondly, if you don't like the ranking system, all you have to do is not visit the site (http://www.nsarmslab.com/stats/veterans). Simple. No one is forcing you to participate or earn ranks. NOTHING has changed. All that is different from now and a week ago is that the people who play the most and support the server community the most get rewarded for their time. I see nothing wrong with that.
If you don't like the way this has been set up, you don't need to participate. But don't try and ruin everyone elses fun.
2_of_Eight
Jul 27 2005, 07:55 PM
Checking rank in-game or through a web browser, not much difference.
You're telling me nothing changed? I disagree. Today, while playing on NSA Vets, I got yelled at by an alien teammate because I 'stole his points' while killing a res node - I ended up getting the killing bite... twice. Gameplay on your revoles around personal kills and score more than ever - due to this plugin.
RyanNSA
Jul 27 2005, 08:06 PM
| QUOTE (2 of Eight @ Jul 27 2005, 02:55 PM) |
Checking rank in-game or through a web browser, not much difference. You're telling me nothing changed? I disagree. Today, while playing on NSA Vets, I got yelled at by an alien teammate because I 'stole his points' while killing a res node - I ended up getting the killing bite... twice. Gameplay on your revoles around personal kills and score more than ever - due to this plugin. |
And generally the people who contribute the most to their team have the highest score or points (fades/gorges/etc). This is no different then normal.
And since when did people take to heart what anyone else said on the Vet server? Is this a new thing? We all know the a**hattery can be strong sometimes in such a competitive enviornment. That is to be expected. I don't think your one event of someone complaining proves much (nor would 20, or even 30). I've seen lots of complaining in my time before we had this program. I think what you are seeing is unfortunately just part of the normal routine. Give it a few weeks and we'll see how it goes. If it doesn't work out we can always change or kill it.
Firewater
Jul 27 2005, 08:25 PM
You can always go back to the other pubs 2 of 8, since clearly using the mute option is out of the case.
Dubbilex
Jul 27 2005, 09:07 PM
Played BF2 lately, Firewater?
Firewater
Jul 27 2005, 10:37 PM
A little bit, I got to used the unlocked guns for the ranked server a little bit. I honestly haven't had time with work, girlfriend and music going on.
Thanks for asking
digz
Jul 27 2005, 11:00 PM
| QUOTE (2 of Eight @ Jul 27 2005, 01:55 PM) |
Checking rank in-game or through a web browser, not much difference. You're telling me nothing changed? I disagree. Today, while playing on NSA Vets, I got yelled at by an alien teammate because I 'stole his points' while killing a res node - I ended up getting the killing bite... twice. Gameplay on your revoles around personal kills and score more than ever - due to this plugin. |
Well, on the Vet server, Id rather see yelling do to people "stealing points" then NO yelling because of no teamwork.

You silly vets you... EVERYONE MUST FADE.
Dubbilex
Jul 27 2005, 11:00 PM
Oh absolutely. But maybe you didn't quite pick up on what I was saying. I asked such a question because I was just wondering if you had, you know, witnessed what a stats system can do to a game?
Firewater
Jul 27 2005, 11:03 PM
I see no problem with the current state of BF2, save the browsing software.
Dubbilex
Jul 27 2005, 11:09 PM
Fair enough. After all, you have been sampling the finer aspects of life, lately.
Suffice it to say, it gets ugly. Give folks a pile to claw their way to the top of and it always gets ugly.
Firewater
Jul 27 2005, 11:38 PM
| QUOTE (Dubbilex @ Jul 27 2005, 06:09 PM) |
Fair enough. After all, you have been sampling the finer aspects of life, lately.
Suffice it to say, it gets ugly. Give folks a pile to claw their way to the top of and it always gets ugly. |
usually its the ones on the bottom that are complaining.
Competition only makes the game more fun, atleast for me.
The great thing about BF2 is that if you do not want to participate in the rankings, you do not have to. Much like the NSA server, if you do not like the ranking system feel free to become a regular some where else.
MrBen
Jul 28 2005, 12:02 AM
If you didn't steal points there'd be no need for lost points rage. Some people work hard to eat res to have some slacker come along like you, bite the RT twice and look better?! I WONT STAND FOR IT. I WON'T flipping STAND FOR IT YOU COMMIE.
Buggy
Jul 28 2005, 12:41 AM
| QUOTE (MrBen @ Jul 27 2005, 07:02 PM) |
| If you didn't steal points there'd be no need for lost points rage. Some people work hard to eat res to have some slacker come along like you, bite the RT twice and look better?! I WONT STAND FOR IT. I WON'T flipping STAND FOR IT YOU COMMIE. |
Not to mention swiping someone twice and having a lerk spore your kill.
urinalcake
Jul 28 2005, 12:56 AM
interesting.
Dubbilex
Jul 28 2005, 01:16 AM
Well, right you are. I've no stock in the server - go knock yourselves out.
Hellabeans
Jul 28 2005, 08:25 AM
SILENCE, ALL OF U!
CommunistWithAGun
Jul 28 2005, 09:03 AM
I play at the vet server for a higher skilled NS oriented pub, if I wanted to hear "SSJ4 GOKUFAN69" go "WHAR R TEH GUNS?" as he flashes his flashlight on and off while jumping off the hera landing pad I'd visit one of the many mp_blockscripts servers.
Router_Box
Jul 28 2005, 12:31 PM
| QUOTE (CommunistWithAGun @ Jul 28 2005, 04:03 AM) |
| I play at the vet server for a higher skilled NS oriented pub, if I wanted to hear "SSJ4 GOKUFAN69" go "WHAR R TEH GUNS?" as he flashes his flashlight on and off while jumping off the hera landing pad I'd visit one of the many mp_blockscripts servers. |
Well, by higher skilled you mean people can aim and bhop.
I swear there are times I'd rather have the noob I can explain things to than 7 vets who all run out of MS on a beeline for the hive, all call for an early sg when they die, and are brought to a rude awakening when they find out neither the ip, armory, nor any rt's have been built yet, and that i'm not getting out of the chair to do these things.
puzl
Jul 28 2005, 01:12 PM
I'm stealing that post for an #ns setinfo.
TOmekki
Jul 28 2005, 04:01 PM
| QUOTE (Router Box @ Jul 28 2005, 07:31 AM) |
| QUOTE (CommunistWithAGun @ Jul 28 2005, 04:03 AM) | | I play at the vet server for a higher skilled NS oriented pub, if I wanted to hear "SSJ4 GOKUFAN69" go "WHAR R TEH GUNS?" as he flashes his flashlight on and off while jumping off the hera landing pad I'd visit one of the many mp_blockscripts servers. |
Well, by higher skilled you mean people can aim and bhop.
I swear there are times I'd rather have the noob I can explain things to than 7 vets who all run out of MS on a beeline for the hive, all call for an early sg when they die, and are brought to a rude awakening when they find out neither the ip, armory, nor any rt's have been built yet, and that i'm not getting out of the chair to do these things.
|
emergency relocation
Router_Box
Jul 28 2005, 04:59 PM
If they have a reserved slot on the veterans server, building base shouldn't be a flipping emergency situation.
milosis
Jul 28 2005, 08:17 PM
| QUOTE (Router Box @ Jul 28 2005, 07:31 AM) |
| QUOTE (CommunistWithAGun @ Jul 28 2005, 04:03 AM) | | I play at the vet server for a higher skilled NS oriented pub, if I wanted to hear "SSJ4 GOKUFAN69" go "WHAR R TEH GUNS?" as he flashes his flashlight on and off while jumping off the hera landing pad I'd visit one of the many mp_blockscripts servers. |
I swear there are times I'd rather have the noob I can explain things to than 7 vets who all run out of MS on a beeline for the hive, all call for an early sg when they die, and are brought to a rude awakening when they find out neither the ip, armory, nor any rt's have been built yet, and that i'm not getting out of the chair to do these things.
|
and by the time you explain things to them, ive killed every single one of them by myself, eagerly anticipating your hopping out of the comm chair.
Router_Box
Jul 28 2005, 09:22 PM
yeah, you and your 5 team mates who all early lerked with you. On 2 Mc's if your really really lucky.
Grahf
Jul 28 2005, 10:16 PM
| QUOTE (Firewater @ Jul 27 2005, 06:38 PM) |
| QUOTE (Dubbilex @ Jul 27 2005, 06:09 PM) | Fair enough. After all, you have been sampling the finer aspects of life, lately.
Suffice it to say, it gets ugly. Give folks a pile to claw their way to the top of and it always gets ugly. |
usually its the ones on the bottom that are complaining.
Competition only makes the game more fun, atleast for me.
The great thing about BF2 is that if you do not want to participate in the rankings, you do not have to. Much like the NSA server, if you do not like the ranking system feel free to become a regular some where else.
|
Actually in bf2 nonranked server dont fill up and in ranked servers people will exploit the point system or get extremely **** off when they are accidently tked, ect.. Pubbing bf2 isnt very fun because of that stats system.
But on the other hand, the pro status mod that was recently installed on the vet server is approved by me.
GoDlol
Jul 28 2005, 10:30 PM
the vet server has horrible gameplay compared to the classic
Router_Box
Jul 29 2005, 05:02 PM
how often will that stats page update?
stallioN
Jul 29 2005, 05:13 PM
| QUOTE (GoDlol @ Jul 28 2005, 05:30 PM) |
| the vet server has horrible gameplay compared to the classic |
Actually I think the 6 fade strategy works fairly well once set in motion.
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