The FAQ points it out.

VAC isn't updated anymore anyway, but NS doesn't support it. Maybe NS:S Will?

Actually, VAC2 is going through its beta phase, and will according to Valve support third party mods when the beta is over. So we'll just have to wait and see.

Anti-cheat also cuts down on the cheat accusations, whether there are cheats or not.

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VAC one was a horrible failure. I doubt VAC 2 will hardly make a difference in the anti-cheat community. It will probably only slow down the coders of cheats nothing more :/

VAC2 will replace VAC on HL1 systems.

unless the cs multihooks work for ns as well, i dont think people would honestly bother recoding a hook entirely for NS

maybe the basic wallhacks would work but the whole esp \ aimbot \ etc might not

I thought any OGC-hook with vecs for the ns models / hitboxes would work?

Um, general discussion anyone?

Actually, there are OGC type prorams specifically designed for NS. They hold many different wallhack modes, esp modes, and many different vecs. They are very sophisticated. Just because you havn't seen it, don't assume they don't exist. They do.

The better cheaters don't get caught, because they don't blatently cheat. Remember that.

Vac2? I give it a day before its broken. Valve won't be able to update fast enough.

That's not what anticheat does either. It forces the cheaters to get the latest versions, meaning lazy buggers wont be able to play on that server. The lazy cheaters tend to be the biggest buttfaces so it's all good.

I hope NS Source will use VAC2.

Unfortunately, there are more features for Natural Selection hacks Ive seen than most Counter-Stike ones. Health ESP, Structure ESP, Class ESP, just crazier stuff.

VAC1 can be disabled with a cetain amount of code and a single pointer address. Its ridicuouls, but cheats are always 500 times easier to develop if there is an SDK to develop mods, because all cheats are really just client-side modifications. Simply hook your functions in GetProcAddress and use ForceLib to inject.

well the best anti cheat out there is a REAL PERSON aka Admins on shifts or something to that.

as you may have sen in my thread on general server disscussion thread. i am hosting a 1 week/month, hasnt happend yet, but ill be there on my pc watching everything as much as i realy can.

ill even have a recording going on and it will stop every hour,save, and a new one starts so no "taking long hours tring to find clues" in one file.

thats the best i can think of.

if you use a program to keep an eye out for hacks and cheats, it has no common sense what so ever.

i totally agree, though vac isn't too much of a hassel because its pretty much built in (meaning that the person on the client side doesn't have to do anything)

i think i read somewhere that vac2 is supposed to have mod support, i could be talking out my **** though

I can't stand VAC, it takes much longer to connect while that crap needs to download itself and scan everytime you join a server, not to mention that it's not more effective than CD...

if you hate vac then you must also hate any server with any type of downloads or custom maps, heck on tfc it takes maybe 3 seconds max to load vac for me

its like having secruity on your computer, yeah it won't catch everything BUT it helps and can catch stuff a person would not easily see.

then if a server doesn't care about it they can just run it unsecured

it is better then the alternatives right now like CD