I feel the marine team needs to be able to do something beyond blocking to kill a fade running away. We should reward careful planning... but currently there isn't anything combative wise that promotes this beyond what the com does.

Add a satchel charge (power could range from handgrenade to GL power) that a marine can remotely detonate at will. Mines are placed on surfaces... and with enemies that mostly fly (lerk/fade/wallwalking skulks) they just don't do the trick when creating an ambush situation.


Now that the idea is down on paper for others to view... implimentation should be considered (i mean... if you make an idea you obviously would want it implimented).

- A marine can hold one satchel at a time

- The satchel should cost between 1-3 res... no more otherwise you'll have to make it to powerful

- A possibility is to have it researched on the armory/armslab, but there are to many critical upgrades to research in a serious game (a reason Hand grenades are so rarely used). So i think the best supplying method would be com-dropping it ala mines.

- The satchel can be fit to any surface much like a mine... possibly with a deployment time to prevent a marine slapping one down. Remember the purpose of this idea is to allow marines who think ahead to benefit from the equipment they carry and how they use it, not to turn marines into suicide bombers.

- the remote should be able to be quickly selected and used... Can't think of a better place then the misc equipment slot (with welder/mines/handnades)

- An idea for an alternate use... if the marine drops the remote (like any other weapon in NS_ ) the satchel then becomes a mine basicly... for utility purposes.

- the possilbility of not letting gorge bilebomb detonating it should be considered. These are deliberately placed... not like mines that you just toss down and forget them.

Feel free to discuss and add your own thoughts on the weapon.


(Note: search for satchel charge and remote mine turned up nada)

the whole marine team would camp

you know the timing you would need a whole team detenating there charge at one time would be practicaly unheard of

The problem I see with this is that the marine who planted it would have to be physcially there to know when to blow it up. And since marines move about the map a lot, the marine most likely wouldn' t be sticking to the same spot watching the satchel charge.

And I think it would drag out games where the marines know they are lost and just camp in the MS.

the only complaint is "marines will camp". Sieges make marines camp. Electrification make marines camp. Motion tracking make marines camp. Phasegates make marines camp. Guns make marines camp.

You go ahead and camp... see how many games you win in Marine start.

Satchel charges, I love that idea. But instead of making its power range from useless(hg) to practically useless(gl shot), and especially if it costs resources, make it pack the punch it needs to kill a running fade or onos... 500 damage sounds nice.

One more workable option to play with, to add more variety and choices into the game would be great. I approve.

ok honoust and serious question here to the devs, man i wish i could get a responce back for this

the weapon slots in belive there full in hl one, but how do they work, now i know alliens have a predefeined path, but marines get ot pick and choose, is there any were to say, or will allow the com to reasearch two types of exsplosive style things from the arms lab, and apon reasearching the second one the third one isnt reaseachable any more, so that the 30 weapon cap isnt breatched

if so i would sujest throwing in a serious arsinal of hand held exsplosive devices to thrown, proxy, Aoe incderty, and remote


the problem with remotes is a rine train could run thro start, throw one each were every they need

and run out, next aline rez wave or allien fall back and heal wave, yep onoe fade lurk boom and good bye hive room chambers and hello hive on red

so you would have to allow aliens well sulks to beable to bite the C4 and effectively get like a parasite word down the bottom saying, ingested mine

this could be exsplited tho

eh ill leave now

people will camp ms (or drop an armory somewhere) and spam these, throwign one, then picking up another, adn repeating the process, and then camp and wait for an onos, and then blow up an onos with full cara before they can react.

no i dont like that idea.

2.01 fadetraps tbh

lame and unfun

marines could just set one and wait for a skulk to come and blow it. They would let marines kill skulks extremely easy. They would also be fairly annoying for fades. Getting killed as a fade is never fun and you dont want to make it too easy.

for it to be nething above 250 dmg would just be asanine 3 res>fade i think not

in all honesty it's just another useless thing no one would waste res on - along with hand nades and cat packs. It would have very little effect on the game.

Not so. In cometitive play, you'd be amazed at the level of teamwork. Pass out two of these and all of a sudden you have a fade death trap.

I really like this idea, it gives the marines another weapon, but one that requires skill and teamwork to use properly. It also will keep aliens on their toes, looking for these as well as mines.

I think 200 Damage would be best. It means one can take out anything lower than a fade, gorge or a carapaced lerk and two, with some gunfire, can take out anything under an onos. 3 with some HMG's would be a meat grinder for even oni.