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coris
I hope Fana & co don't mind me posting this..

taken from knifegaming.com

"After much hard work by both Evilness and mu -- and the amazing lingual skills of the fananator -- we've compiled a sweet package of ownage to provide all your ns gaming needs (ok maybe not quite ALL). Snippet from files page:

Basically we made a pack with a wide assortment of cool custom files that enhance your game by reducing some of the unneccesary crap included in NS. Several different crosshair packs are included, such as Fana's modified 1.04 crosshairs, morphz' small crosshairs and mu's accurate shotgun crosshair. Other additions include a reduced waypoint sprite, no ambient sounds and reduced alien HUD. All included in an easy to use installer that should make sure that even the biggest of the fattest of the most horrible nubs can install this without a hitch.

So get downloading already. Grab it here or check out some more useless information on the files page."


Download!

Great contenct put together in a very professional looking installer. Great job mu and evilness!
Swiftspear
Is the WP sprite checked by consistancy? I can't be the only one who finds the giant flashy blue moron target annoying at times.
fanatic
All files in that package are unaffected by consistency. Sheesh, why even ask when it's posted in here? :|
surprise
need to spread it...

would be good content for customns.com
anybody knows who maintains that site or if that site is still maintaned?
coris
QUOTE (surprise @ Jun 11 2005, 11:24 PM)
need to spread it...

would be good content for customns.com
anybody knows who maintains that site or if that site is still maintaned?

mst does iirc. Ill pm him on irc.
surprise
what you could change or improve would be checkboxes where you can say for what weapons you want the new crosshairs
maybe
Trayder
If you wanna spread it try posting it in the customisation forum.
Real_PUA
Eeek teh gamma hurts my eyes!!! Hehhe but it is very nice to be able to see skulks in MS on ns_lost.

Also, I dont really see how that SG xhair helps, i mean is doesnt hurt, but its not like it tells you the spread unless you are shooting something right in your face. Eh.. maybe I just have to use it more to see how it works..anyways, this was extremely easy to install . It would be nice if you have a feature to restore all the deafult xhairs/sprites though.

2_of_Eight
QUOTE (coris @ Jun 11 2005, 04:58 PM)
no ambient sounds

Hmm confused-fix.gif
I hope this bug is fixed in the next release - ambient sounds should be checked for consistency. It's like... whitewalling with detailed textures. It really is - only involving another input method: sound.

[edit]
Oh and the rest of it is very nice! I especially like the crosshair for LMG and such.
Real_PUA
OKay I played with it some more and I must say I dont really like the gamma setting. Its seriously giving me a headache, and it sucks with the alien flashlight. Also, WTH you changed my name to knifefan. Thats just stupid. I should probably run adware to make sure you guys didnt install spyware or popup ads on my comp.

On the postivie side, since I'm too lazy to revert to my old setting, I'll have more time to study for finals.
Raz
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Also, I dont really see how that SG xhair helps, i mean is doesnt hurt, but its not like it tells you the spread unless you are shooting something right in your face.


The shotgun has a linear spread. Where it shows is exactly where the pellets will hit.
SandVaN
Good stuff.

I do have a question though, Why would I not be able to connect to a game w/o first opening up ns from the my games list after using this? I installed everything but the xhairs.
comrade
QUOTE (Raz @ Jun 12 2005, 12:03 AM)
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Also, I dont really see how that SG xhair helps, i mean is doesnt hurt, but its not like it tells you the spread unless you are shooting something right in your face.


The shotgun has a linear spread. Where it shows is exactly where the pellets will hit.


Exactly.

QUOTE (SandVaN @ Jun 12 2005, 12:48 AM)
Good stuff.

I do have a question though, Why would I not be able to connect to a game w/o first opening up ns from the my games list after using this? I installed everything but the xhairs.


It works fine for me and everyone else who tested it, it's only some custom sprites, sound files and a config. Can we get some more information about your problem?

QUOTE (Real PUA @ Jun 11 2005, 11:43 PM)
OKay I played with it some more and I must say I dont really like the gamma setting. Its seriously giving me a headache, and it sucks with the alien flashlight. Also, WTH you changed my name to knifefan. Thats just stupid. I should probably run adware to make sure you guys didnt install spyware or popup ads on my comp.

On the postivie side, since I'm too lazy to revert to my old setting, I'll have more time to study for finals.


OK, blame Fana or Evilness for this one, they wrote the little text things next to each option. In the original readme I made it very clear that you should edit the userconfig in a basic text editor (notepad) before playing, it has all the information in there about gamma, your name, your rates and a couple of useful aliases which you can bind to a key (like to request medpacks/ammo). If you really can't fathom how to sort the settings out (change the values next to each one and save the file, if you dont want a setting to be reset every time you open NS then just delete it from the userconfig.cfg file) then just delete the "userconfig.cfg" file and the "config.cfg" files and you will be playing with a default config again which can easily be edited through the ingame menu.

All these files can be found in the half-life/ns folder in your steam directory.

Apologies for the problem but it seems pretty easy to miss, seeing as all the people who tested this have and maintain their own separate userconfigs, sometimes you assume that everyone knows about them.
SandVaN
Im not sure exactly what the problem was but when i restarted my computer it fixed it. Guess I shoulda tried that before posting. tounge.gif
surprise
you install the config and dont look into it? o.O

now thats something i would call stupid...
i for one looked into it, that was the first thing i did after installing, and then i deleted it biggrin-fix.gif
coris
QUOTE (surprise @ Jun 12 2005, 11:47 AM)
i for one looked into it, that was the first thing i did after installing, and then i deleted it biggrin-fix.gif

Same here. The rest is very nice though smile-fix.gif


@2 of Eight: I think that comparing nulled ambience sounds to whitewalls is a bit harsh, it doesn't provide such a big advantage, but having the bass in my headphones NOT going all funky in triad and central access is actually pretty nice. Now it doesnt feel like my head is going to blow up while playing those maps anymore.
2_of_Eight
It's a matter of perspective. Those who rely on sound more will appreciate this exploit more than those who don't, and rely on eyes more.
TOmekki
QUOTE (2 of Eight @ Jun 12 2005, 09:23 AM)
It's a matter of perspective. Those who rely on sound more will appreciate this exploit more than those who don't, and rely on eyes more.

i guess you could see any change to the default ns install an exploit, and customising itself exploiting, but that's YOUR personal opinion. stop advertising your opinion with phrases like

QUOTE
I hope this bug is fixed in the next release - ambient sounds should be checked for consistency. It's like... whitewalling with detailed textures.


please.

QUOTE
It really is


no, it really isnt.

QUOTE
Those who rely on sound more will appreciate this exploit more than those who don't


everyone relies on sound. the thing is- with my old headphones i hardly noticed any ambience sounds, but i bought new ones and now the noise is just deafening.
2_of_Eight
Textures, low light, alien infestation - all prevents you from seeing well, you might lose track of your target. It's a lot better playing with fullbright all white textures, since you see better.

Ambient sound prevents you from hearing skulk footsteps. It's a lot better playing with no sound, since you hear better.

I don't see a difference, and fail to see how you can.
coris
This is what I miss from the Deathmatch communities, everything is pretty much accepted except for hooks.
Innocuous
HOW DO I TURN THIS **** MUSIC OFF JESUS
2_of_Eight
cl_musicenabled 0
obuh
I think he means the music you hear during the installation. There should be a little media player stuff that pops up at the start, there you can stop it.

I personally like the music, it contains much coolness.
Princess_of_Power
QUOTE (install)
you might not know what they do but trust us you need them

laf
MrGunner
I'm just gonna stick with minstrels pack.
Ots
QUOTE (Innocuous @ Jun 12 2005, 01:57 PM)
HOW DO I TURN THIS **** MUSIC OFF JESUS

rofl
surprise
can you post that for comparison? nerd-fix.gif
a_civilian
QUOTE (surprise @ Jun 12 2005, 04:08 PM)
can you post that for comparison?  nerd-fix.gif

Assuming you're responding to Gunner's post, I think he was joking (well I hope he was!). Minstrel's pack contained blackwalls (and the appropriate scripts and macros to use them), a macro program, and a script to rapidly change your rates (to make you unhittable), among other things.
Innocuous
QUOTE (obuh @ Jun 12 2005, 02:11 PM)
I think he means the music you hear during the installation. There should be a little media player stuff that pops up at the start, there you can stop it.

I personally like the music, it contains much coolness.

Yes. But the little menu pops up then GOES AWAY. So I was in PAIN listening to it. Sure its alright, but it gets annoying after awhile. I had to click setup.exe to get the music to play 3 times over eachother. Go to task manager and find which program was running 3 times.

Kthx. Too much work. I give this download a -1 just because of that ****.

QUOTE (a civilian @ Jun 12 2005, 03:49 PM)

Assuming you're responding to Gunner's post, I think he was joking (well I hope he was!).  Minstrel's pack contained blackwalls (and the appropriate scripts and macros to use them), a macro program, and a script to rapidly change your rates (to make you unhittable), among other things.


It also had in the userconfig about 10 lines of "setinfo s4 pige0n". loller
Jmmsbnd007
QUOTE (MrGunner @ Jun 12 2005, 02:32 PM)
I'm just gonna stick with minstrels pack.

lolololol
d2
fanatic
QUOTE (Innocuous @ Jun 12 2005, 10:29 PM)
QUOTE (obuh @ Jun 12 2005, 02:11 PM)
I think he means the music you hear during the installation. There should be a little media player stuff that pops up at the start, there you can stop it.

I personally like the music, it contains much coolness.

Yes. But the little menu pops up then GOES AWAY. So I was in PAIN listening to it. Sure its alright, but it gets annoying after awhile. I had to click setup.exe to get the music to play 3 times over eachother. Go to task manager and find which program was running 3 times.

Kthx. Too much work. I give this download a -1 just because of that ****.

QUOTE (a civilian @ Jun 12 2005, 03:49 PM)

Assuming you're responding to Gunner's post, I think he was joking (well I hope he was!).  Minstrel's pack contained blackwalls (and the appropriate scripts and macros to use them), a macro program, and a script to rapidly change your rates (to make you unhittable), among other things.


It also had in the userconfig about 10 lines of "setinfo s4 pige0n". loller

The unstoppable music was a bug with the first installer. Redownload for fixage.

Also, just fyi. this has now been renamed to the TEAM HASSELHOFF NS PACK VERSON 1. http://www.knifegaming.com/index.php?id=roster/roster
kalimxs
yeah i had to kill 5.exe to get rid of that mad-fix.gif

also, does the hud replacement make a backup anywhere?
Fatal_Error
sad-fix.gif Could you make it into a zip? I hate exes, I have to install to a seperate folder then filter out everything that's good.
fanatic
The setup lets you select what features you want to install, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Swiftspear
love the small crosshairs, but they could use a swipe and a bite crossy... also has to be different from the para/blink crossies.
Zaggy
hilarious threat this one is, too much people who don't know how to properly edit their own configs xD.
Grahf
The music kept playing on my computer even after the program finished, I had to end process it.
fanatic
Please read the entire thread before you post these things.

As stated earlier, there was a bug with the first installer. If you downloaded it less than a day from the release, you have the bugged version. Redownload and voila.
Router_Box
Excellant job Knife guys!
Grahf
QUOTE (fanatic @ Jun 13 2005, 04:14 AM)
Please read the entire thread before you post these things.

As stated earlier, there was a bug with the first installer. If you downloaded it less than a day from the release, you have the bugged version. Redownload and voila.

I downloaded it 5 minutes before I posted that, so that would mean its not the first installer correct?
fanatic
That's strange to say the least. Unless you downloaded it from a different mirror than knifegaming, I don't see why this would happen. Might be a different bug I guess, we'll check it out once we have time.
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