You and hellfire were the two likely candidates for the guardian, I think.

Before I put the complete picture together, which will be a bit of work - Pithlit wasn't quite aware of what I knew. He infact wasn't even aware surprisingly enough that both you and me knew he was the seer.

However, early on in the fake seer network that started with you, Sky, you told me about lolfighters claims. From there on it was just some muckwork of finding similar information from others to confirm the story - at one point I even got lolfighters story that he'd been contacted by the real seer, who claimed to have seered you. After that it was easy to figure out that since lolfighter grouped with Pithlit, and only 2 seerings had happened, Pithlit had to be the seer.

In an unrelated incident and thanks to Pithlit passing up the opportunity to EMail Freak83 anonymously, I got a hold of the gaurdian before he did - and at the same time that confirmed Freak83. A series of others sorted themselves out easily - like BadKarma PMing imlost and confirming both a wolf and a human, and alot of smaller tidbits lying around. SoulRider you served up to me yourself (which is the one person I had doubts about).

So by the end of day2, which was when most of this information came to me, the only thing that could have gone wrong was for me to get daytime lynched and hence leave the game as unconfirmed human. I'm really kind of bummed out I didn't just get wolfed, that would have been so much more fun to watch unfold. Could Sky really have held up to information by a confirmed human, although a dead one?

Anyway, a more coherent summary when I get time to this friday.

I'm quite sure that it is against the rules to do this.

On a completely different note, since we actually had an even number of people in this game during the day time, what happens if the game gets down to 1 human and 1 wolf? Both living players know who the wolf is, yet an instalynch is impossible. Is it a tie game, or does random.org decide the winner?

Err, what?

I can't speak for anyone else, but from my perspective, you had as much chance of being a wolf as being a human. Same with Xentor. Q had less chance of being a wolf, since he had wolves trying to vote him off earlier. I guess I wasn't voted off straight away (they waited to seer me) because I had a hand in voting off two wolves.

Oh thank you.

As for an endgame with only a wolf and a human left: Yeah, random.org, at least if I was the host. A tie is just not satisfying.


Well, I really sucked in this game. I'm just not cut out for this. Or maybe the ongoing stress and sleep deprivation just got the better of me. I spent the first few days being very confused about Pithlit, eventually leading me to the conclusion that he was fake. I sold him out - and to our immense luck, to Freak, and not a wolf. Fortunately, Freak was able to piece together the scattered pieces of the puzzle (I don't know whether I was kept out of the loop or just not paying attention) and eventually point to Pithlit as the real seer shortly before SaltzBad was saved. From that point on, I was pretty convinced that I was in the real seer network, and took a backseat, allowing those who actually had a clue about what was going on to play the game for me. I started writing a journal in this game, but quit it on day two, being too throughly confused about what was going on.

Oh, and an interesting tidbit: When I incriminated Sky at the end of day two, I was pretty convinced that he was a human and Pithlit a wolf. I reckoned that he stood no chance of getting lynched anyway, and I could always go back on my own words once I was absolutely sure that Pithlit was a wolf and could sell him out in public. Also, Pithlit was growing very insistent, while I really really wanted him to seer Freak (whom Pithlit was 99% sure was a wolf), so we struck a deal: I did as Pithlit said, and he seered Freak. I expected him to call Freak a wolf, which would just have cemented my doubts about Pithlit, but to my surprise (and his own too) he confirmed Freak to be human. I think that this was the beginning of the turning point for me, as I had so far been able to twist and interpret everything that Pithlit said and did as pointing towards him being a wolf. When he called Freak a human, the finely constructed "Pithlit is a wolf"-picture started to crumble.

I think I'm sitting out on the next game, but I'm thinking about hosting TWG VII if time permits and I'm given the chance. I think I have an idea with potential. And this time I'm swapping Sci-Fi for a more esotheric theme.

Edit: Oh, and I still can't believe I made it through this alive. Guess the wolves quite rightly reckoned me to be too stupid to be a threat.

\o/

On a side note, I ended up being fairly useless to the human side this time. Mostly cos I was too confused to actually work anything out. Ah well. Sky, in case you were wondering, those last few PMs I sent to you were meant to gain your trust, and hopefully get a wolf to contact me later. That didn't really work out, but nevermind, the job got done anyway

See, it's serious mistakes like that that ended up costing you the game. If you'd gotten wind of my suspicions somehow, you could easily have used me to get to Pithlit.
For some reason everybody thinks that playing one game and hosting the next one somehow makes me an expert on TWG. When will you learn that I flipping suck at this and leave me alone? I don't want the stigma of counting as a veteran, it makes me liable to get wolfed "to deprive the humans of a good player" when I don't even deserve it! I'm a liability to my team! If anything, I should be wolfed when I AM a wolf, to make sure I don't screw up the game! I'm a bloody nub, I deserve to be considered useless and left alone! LEAVE ME ALONE!

Something "somewhat" along this line is already planned.

Wouldn't the wolf win if wolves are even with humans (so 4 wolves 4 humans). Since a wolf would be able to kill the human 1v1 .

In the first TWG, there were 2 humans against one wolf on the last day, and 14 player slots total, correct? If so, it stands to assume that as long as there are an even number of player slots, then there will always be an odd number of players at the start of a day...

Right?

Like what happened in this game, which is why I asked in the first place.

Is this ever going to come?