As the armor goes up in tech (lvl 1...2...3) the effects of spores decreases on armor (still hurts health the same).

I dont think it is so much a nerf of spores as it is making armor upgrades more then just adding a few more armor hp to a marine.

Makes sense, I like it.

Why not just make it so Spore is unaffected by armor? HP detriment only?

An intelligent lerk in 3.0.3 can really set a talented marine team back with spores.

I like it.

i think it's a sensible idea since it buffs the marines slighly and gives the comm an incentive to get armor 1 since it does seem less useful than weapon 1 nowadays

It's a reasonable idea......

List of viable alien ranged weapons, 1.x:
Acid Rocket (Hive 1 ability, Hive 2 Lifeform)
Spikes (Hive 1 ability, Hive 1 Lifeform)
Bile Bomb, Spores, Babblers, Xenocide (Hive 3 abilities)

List of viable alien ranged weapons, 2.x:
Spikes (Hive 1 ability)
Spores (Hive 1 abilty)
Acid Rocket, Xenocide (Hive 3 abilities)

List of viable alien ranged weapons, 3.x:
Spores (Hive 1 ability)
Xenocide (Hive 3 ability)

Anyone seeing a pattern here? And now you want to nerf the only remaining ranged weapon before Hive 3?

Parasite helps because you can use it once to reduce a marine from 160 to 150 hp--but you never actually fight marines with parasite (except in odd corner cases--but there are exceptions for everything).

I guess Spit can be kind of useful sometimes. But you don't generally try to fight marines with Gorges anyway (probaby just due to them being the slowest and least maneuverable of all lifeforms).

There are other ways to reduce alien dominance rather than making them completely dependant on standing next to a marine in order to kill him.

Even as it is, it takes like 15 seconds to kill an armor 1 marine with spores. You still usually need to finish him off with something else.

cxwf, aliens are ment to be melee. I have another thread about nerfing spores with a diffrent marine upgrade. here

"Because this negates the benefits of welders, and allows medpacks to counter spores...."

so medpacks AND welders should be a counter for a single ability the lerk can do? let alone all the ammo you spend trying to kill it, all the time it takes from marines, due to distractions, bite kills and umbra? It seems the marines spend far more then 35 res in a few minutes by a lerker just from med packs, and I thought the whole idea was balance?

Spore is the ONLY hive 1 weapon that's capable of breaking up camping marines. I'd like to see a build where spikes where hive 1 and spores were removed, the alien game for that version would be absolutely terrible. Spores need to stay as they are, otherwise aliens have no way to even attempt to break a marine campsite.

Yeah this is nice, basicly (not including HAs) with level 3 armor, a few marines going to a hive, one lerk can basicly make the level 3 armor useless in a few seconds (as if there wasn't an armor upgraded at all). So this is a nice idea.

Also about spikes, why not make it so spores AND spike is on 2nd slot(or bite and spike on first slot) and bite on 1st. Basicly like sv_cheats 1, give weapon_spikegun.

Lerk spores should only be armour reactive I think... so many cowardly lerks just hide in a vent and gas spam to no other effect than to get free kills from people who can't get away from the spores... if it does health damage it should be minimal... the lerk should get off it's fat arse and actually try using it's teeth.