If you play as a lerk for your clan, please respond below to the following questions:

1. In terms of game balance, the lerk vertical speed cap is:
a. too high (lerks can go too fast up-down)
b. a little too high
c. just right
d. a little too low
e. too low (lerks can't go fast enough up-down)

2. Should lerks be able to perch?
a. yes
b. no

3. For your playstyle, which do you prefer?
a. bite
b. spikes

4. Do you think that lerks should be given the choice of bite or spikes as the slot1 weapon? Why or why not?

5. In terms of game balance, should spikes be able to damage mines?
a. yes
b. no

6. Spores should damage:
a. health and armor
b. only health

7. Umbra should damage:
a. nothing
b. light armor / jetpack armor only
c. all armor, including heavy armor

8. Are spores currently too powerful as a hive 1 weapon?
a. spores are too powerful
b. spores are fine
c. spores aren't powerful enough

9. Keeping in mind both game balance and personal preference, if you were to choose the lerk's weapon loadout, what four weapons would you choose (in slot order)?
* bite
* spikes
* spores
* umbra
* spumbra (spores + umbra)
* primal scream
* other (please specify)

10. Please comment on any suggestions you have on how to make the lerk more fun, balanced, or intuitive.

1. In terms of game balance, the lerk vertical speed cap is:
I think the base lerk speed is too low. I like the speed with lvl 3 celerity is fine though.

2. Should lerks be able to perch?
no

3. For your playstyle, which do you prefer?
bite

4. Do you think that lerks should be given the choice of bite or spikes as the slot1 weapon? I have never liked spikes, I prefer bite over it anyday of the week. The lerk has enough range weapons with gas.

5. In terms of game balance, should spikes be able to damage mines?
I don't think spikes should be a part of the game.

6. Spores should damage:
a. health and armor

7. Umbra should damage:
a. nothing

8. Are spores currently too powerful as a hive 1 weapon?
b. spores are fine

9. Keeping in mind both game balance and personal preference, if you were to choose the lerk's weapon loadout, what four weapons would you choose (in slot order)?
bite
spores
umbra
primal scream

10. Please comment on any suggestions you have on how to make the lerk more fun, balanced, or intuitive.
Leave the lerk alone. It's fine how it is. Maybe increase base speed a little but keep lvl 3 celerity at the same speed its at now.

1. In terms of game balance, the lerk vertical speed cap is:
a. too high (lerks can go too fast up-down)

2. Should lerks be able to perch?
b. no

3. For your playstyle, which do you prefer?
b. spikes

4. Do you think that lerks should be given the choice of bite or spikes as the slot1 weapon? Why or why not?

No, while spikes would work well with my playing style bite is very versitile and shouldn't be removed or changed in any way.

5. In terms of game balance, should spikes be able to damage mines?
a. yes

6. Spores should damage:
a. health and armor

7. Umbra should damage:
a. nothing

8. Are spores currently too powerful as a hive 1 weapon?
b. spores are fine

9. Keeping in mind both game balance and personal preference, if you were to choose the lerk's weapon loadout, what four weapons would you choose (in slot order)?
bite,spores,umbra,primal scream (as is)

10. Please comment on any suggestions you have on how to make the lerk more fun, balanced, or intuitive.

Fun: I have fun playing it right now.
Balanced: Mousewheeling + not so hot hitboxes = bad. Fix one or the other.
intuitive: I think playing lerk is easy to learn but hard to master. Good as it is.

If you play as a lerk for your clan, please respond below to the following questions:

1. In terms of game balance, the lerk vertical speed cap is:
d. the vertical speed cap is set too low. flying straight up and down now is a bit too slow.

2. Should lerks be able to perch?
b. no

3. For your playstyle, which do you prefer?
a. bite

4. Do you think that lerks should be given the choice of bite or spikes as the slot1 weapon? Why or why not?
no. its fine the way it is. in the HEAT OF BATTLE RAWR it would be a pain in the **** to spore and get ready to bite, then oh no! SLECTED SPIKES WTH *dead lerk*

5. In terms of game balance, should spikes be able to damage mines?
b. no, enough with the spikes

6. Spores should damage:
a. health and armor

7. Umbra should damage:
a. nothing

8. Are spores currently too powerful as a hive 1 weapon?
b. spores are fine

9. Keeping in mind both game balance and persoal preference, if you were to choose the lerk's weapon loadout, what four weapons would you choose (in slot order)?
* bite
* spores
* umbra
* weaker version of bilebomb

10. Please comment on any suggestions you have on how to make the lerk more fun, balanced, or intuitive.
honestly i would love to see lerk lift. but no superlerklift. only th eone that i u can lift gorges with.

1. b. a little too high

2. b. no

3. b. spikes

4. No, all other classes only have 1 slot1 weapon. Would confuse newbs also.

b. no

6. b. only health. Because we all know focus + lerk =

7. a. nothing

8. b. spores are fine

9.
* spikes
* spores
* umbra
* other (lerk lift?)

10. No comment.

Wow lerk lift? are you serious?

Weaker version of bile bomb might not be a bad idea though.

I really think the lerk is fine as it is. Just leave the damn bird alone.

1. In terms of game balance, the lerk vertical speed cap is:
c. just right

2. Should lerks be able to perch?
a. yes

3. For your playstyle, which do you prefer?
b. spikes

4. Do you think that lerks should be given the choice of bite or spikes as the slot1 weapon?
Yes
The spikes are great for distant attack

5. In terms of game balance, should spikes be able to damage mines?
a. yes

6. Spores should damage:
a. health and armor

7. Umbra should damage:
a. nothing

8. Are spores currently too powerful as a hive 1 weapon?
c. spores aren't powerful enough

9. Keeping in mind both game balance and personal preference, if you were to choose the lerk's weapon loadout, what four weapons would you choose (in slot order)?
* spikes
* bite
* spumbra (spores + umbra)
* other - lerklift (ability to pickup certain classes)

Its been a while since I played for a clan, but I did play as Lerk at the time...

3. For your playstyle, which do you prefer?
b. Spikes

4. Do you think that lerks should be given the choice of bite or spikes as the slot1 weapon? Why or why not?
No. While I greatly miss spikes, having two weapons in one slot wreaks too much havoc with quickswitch. Not to mention bites and spikes place greatly different demands on your flight style--spikes are vastly more difficult to aim under the 3.0 flight model, while bites were vastly trickier to land under the pre-3.0 flight model. Pick one and stick with it.

I don't want to fill out a bunch of questions so I'll just say that lerks are perfect right now and that anyone that thinks different is a communist. Perching is stupid. Changes to how the flight model work are unneeded. Biting is way more awesome then spikes ever were especially with the current, awesome, flight model. Anyone that thinks that vertical movement is too slow relies too much on pancaking.

1. In terms of game balance, the lerk vertical speed cap is:
Lerk speed is good.

2. Should lerks be able to perch?
No, this would be really wierd to look at and probobly pretty hard to code in.

3. For your playstyle, which do you prefer?
Bite. I hate spikes passionately, instant contact weapons that can be fired rapidly, with instant contact and minimal noise dont belong in the hands of the aliens.

4. No, I don't like spikes, as stated above.

6. Spores should damage:
Health and armor

7. Umbra should damage:
nothing

8. Are spores currently too powerful as a hive 1 weapon?
No, spores are good

9. The lerks weapon load is good as it is.

My only complaint is that a lerks base speed is a little low.

After seeing several people complain about the non-celeritous lerks speed, I'll comment that the 2.01 Lerk did seem to move much faster pre-celerity. Of course, post-celerity nothing compares to a 3.0 Lerk...but should Celerity be the mandatory, must have Lerk Upgrade, like regen used to be for all higher lifeforms?

Let's not hijack the thread, but celerity in my opion the best upgrade for a lerk. Its a must have for early lerks to get close enough to do any damage against marines that can aim. Adren is good for lots of direction change in flight(and gas spam), but I'd still rather have celerity. Silence is a joke for lerks :*(. I may not be the most experienced lerk around, but those are my general guidelines.

The problem that people have is that celerity lerks move almost as fast as blinking fades but a lerk never hits more then 1000 or so in a classic map. In the jp room on ns_seige007 a lerk can hit around 1800 from the ceiling to the floor mashing 3jumps, while an adren fade can hit over 2000 in half that distance. Leaping skulks also travel incredibly fast but no one ever complains about them.

Lerks cost 30 res and die to one shotgun blast but for some reason everyone wants to make it so they are only useful by sitting in a vent or as far away from marines as possible instead of making them able to kill marines

AERIAL BILEBOMB INSTEAD OF PRIMAL SCREAM FTW

and yes i was semi serious about the leftlift lifting gorges only. its woul dmake it alot more FUN too lerk.

but let it be known i am NOT complaining about the current state of the lerk. if no changes were made, it would make no difference to me.

I just think lerk lift would be a tad bit overpowering. The gorge can heal the lerk while in flight. Gorge with adren and a celerity lerk = never dying lerk who owns the map.

u could make it so the gorge's abilities would be disabled when the lerk is lifting it, making the purpose of lerk lift to carry/lift gorges to crucial spots e.g. the top of the hive, vents, ledges.

Didn't fades also used to have bilebomb? Not to derail the thread or anything.

1. In terms of game balance, the lerk vertical speed cap is:
d. a little too low


2. Should lerks be able to perch?
b. no

3. For your playstyle, which do you prefer?
a. bite


4. Do you think that lerks should be given the choice of bite or spikes as the slot1 weapon? Why or why not?
bite: i like to bite

5. In terms of game balance, should spikes be able to damage mines?
b. no

6. Spores should damage:
a. health and armor


7. Umbra should damage:
a. nothing


8. Are spores currently too powerful as a hive 1 weapon?
b. spores are fine


9. Keeping in mind both game balance and personal preference, if you were to choose the lerk's weapon loadout, what four weapons would you choose (in slot order)?
* bite
* spores
* spumbra (spores + umbra)
* primal scream


10. Please comment on any suggestions you have on how to make the lerk more fun, balanced, or intuitive.

Umbra should heal.

What exactly do you mean by perch? Like stick to the cieling?

In the competitve scene most lerks are getting really agressive. Spikes are not needed. Perching isn't needed either.

The base speed of a lerk should be increased a tad bit. I'm talking vanilla lerk, with no upgrades.

Lerks are actually fine the way they are and should be left alone, TBH. FTW

I'm not exactly the best person with a shotgun, but i've seen him do that to me and others quite a bit tbh =[

The acceleration/energy use of a lerk flap should naturaly perform like a 2jump script. More thrust; more energy; less flapping. Would not effect balance, just remove the advantage of spamming jump, nwheel, or scripts.

Primal should take 25% less energy than it currently requires and last 25% longer.

I answer my dealio exactly the same as nIn. I'd like to see backwards flight, just to see what could be done with it, but the current lerk is pretty much in a sweet spot where it doesn't need much changing.

For god sakes, don't stick us with spikes again.

I lerk for /whois: which would be my clan... KTHNXBI

And I play baseball for the NAMBLA cup. Want to hear my professional oppinion on steroid scandals? No? Thought so.

- Which really has nothing to do with the Thread, please stay on topic.

Keep in mind, the maximum vertical speed - without celerity - is rougly 1200 units/second...
Yeah, I think it's all good; lerks are perfect right now.

If you play as a lerk for your clan, please respond below to the following questions:

1. In terms of game balance, the lerk vertical speed cap is:
Just right, but needs a little more speed up without celerity. Feels awkward.

2. Should lerks be able to perch?
See 3. (A yes though).


3. For your playstyle, which do you prefer?
Spikes. If there was a Perch ability, it would give Lerks the ability to use the Spikes alot better than with the flight model right now.

4. Do you think that lerks should be given the choice of bite or spikes as the slot1 weapon? Why or why not?

No. It's either one, the other, or both on the Lerk to begin with. A choice will complicate things and slow down choice and gestation process.

5. In terms of game balance, should spikes be able to damage mines?
If spikes were reimplimented as a Hive 1 weapon, they should not damage mines, int he same manner as Parasite, for it would make them more useless, like in 2.0x

6. Spores should damage:
Health and Armor. There is nothing to change.

7. Umbra should damage:
Nothing. Umbra should remain as the defensive weapon.

8. Are spores currently too powerful as a hive 1 weapon?
Spores are a little overpowered.

9. Keeping in mind both game balance and personal preference, if you were to choose the lerk's weapon loadout, what four weapons would you choose (in slot order)?
1. Bite
2. Spikes
3. Umbra
4. Spores

Yes, it is the 1.0x Lerk loadout, but I think it is the most balanced. The Lerk should be an offensive weapon between the Skulk and Fade. Primal Scream only takes away fromt he offensive capabilities. I mainly see Primal Scream used for killing the CC faster, or to power up an Acid Rocketing Fade. Nothing else really, as I think it's on the wrong lifeform(Should be on Onos).

Spikes, if given a 1-3 point damage reduction, would serve fine as a Hive 1 weapon, if it can't kill mines. Keep Bite for close combat/structure killing. Umbra for the 2nd hive ability stays, as it's perfect for what it does, and assists in the 1-hive lockdown situations. Spores at Hive 3 seems right, because if you're not using a Proto tech item (Heavies to filter it, JPs to dodge), then it assists in destroying faster, while not overbalancing if the Marines are still a formidable force (using proto lab equipment).


10. Please comment on any suggestions you have on how to make the lerk more fun, balanced, or intuitive.

Being able to Perch isn't useful unless Spikes gets implimented, because the current flight model is perfect for Perching and then spiking the heck out of a Marine, or for hiding in a corner in the ceiling, as a flying creature would be best at. It needs to be more than just a skulk with wings, in my opinion, and spikes is the big difference in my opinion.

However, I don't want to see the flight model change, other than backwards flight. It was a great improvement from the older flight model.