A lot of people get accused of aimbotting and wallhacking on NS servers so I'm posting a demo I made tonight to show you a blatant aimbotter and wallhacker so you can see the obvious traits of both. You will notice the snap aiming from one skulk to another without missing a bullet. You will notice how he scans walls before going into any room. You will notice him tracing skulks through boxes with his bullets.
http://www3.telus.net/public/danorama/oneill.zip
I also included his steamid in a screenshot if you run a server and want to ban him after reviewing the demo.
Personally I think it would be nice to have a seperate forum here to post this kind of stuff. I mean if you plan on integrating the community into the website, these people should be outed as cheaters, as they are detrimental to the game, they ruin games, and they make new players not want to play. Kind of like how pedophiles having to tell their neighbours that they are sex offenders. An icon like the consti icons would be nice for people that have been proven to be cheaters.
Oh yeah and this is my webspace so post if the demo is unavailable.
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I also remember Esuna's topic but it's old and none of the pictures work and I think an actual demo of a hacker ingame is much better.
Its only obvious if you quartertime it, otherwise it looks like he's playing Counter-Strike and isn't very bright. If you slowmo it though you can see the instant firing at the target, and the view following later 
| QUOTE (MrGunner @ Mar 20 2005, 12:51 AM) |
| I also remember Esuna's topic but it's old and none of the pictures work and I think an actual demo of a hacker ingame is much better. |
esunas post was a brilliant look into the traits of hackers, I'm going to direct him over here, as it would be a faboulous resource
| QUOTE (MrGunner @ Mar 20 2005, 08:51 AM) |
| I also remember Esuna's topic but it's old and none of the pictures work and I think an actual demo of a hacker ingame is much better. |
Yeah, i've had a lot of webhosting problems and such which ended with me (temporarily) hosting the videos on my ISP host, after moving house, the cancellation of my DSL (and subsequent re-enabling), i don't have a whole lot left online, and i don't have copies of those videos on my HDD either, so, unfortunately, that kinda died really. I may at some point make a new batch, but for now, they're dead.
hm, i think i still got most of the movies...
i justed watched, and i still got:
aimbot.avi
esp.avi
lambertwallhack.avi
speedhack1.avi
wallhack2.avi
wfwwfb.avi
are they complete?!?
i think that should be all
i justed watched, and i still got:
aimbot.avi
esp.avi
lambertwallhack.avi
speedhack1.avi
wallhack2.avi
wfwwfb.avi
are they complete?!?
i think that should be all
| QUOTE (surprise @ Mar 26 2005, 04:22 PM) |
| hm, i think i still got most of the movies... i justed watched, and i still got: aimbot.avi esp.avi lambertwallhack.avi speedhack1.avi wallhack2.avi wfwwfb.avi are they complete?!? i think that should be all |
I think that is all of them, yeah. If you can email them to esunub [at] gmail.com then i can get them hosted again.
Heres another.
# 7 "NSPlayer" 1652 STEAM_0:0:4160170 61 16:01 40
Demo
See demo, blantant aimbot hacking and whitewalls.
# 7 "NSPlayer" 1652 STEAM_0:0:4160170 61 16:01 40
Demo
See demo, blantant aimbot hacking and whitewalls.
prob is there is very well tweaked aimboters so that you don't just lock on, and jump.
Anyone got any demo proofing sites where you submit demos for them to say ya or na?
Since co_ though hackers on servers are getting worse, only attracts the cs market and it's bringing down the game.
Anyone got any demo proofing sites where you submit demos for them to say ya or na?
Since co_ though hackers on servers are getting worse, only attracts the cs market and it's bringing down the game.
| QUOTE (Swift @ Apr 2 2005, 10:24 PM) |
| Heres another. # 7 "NSPlayer" 1652 STEAM_0:0:4160170 61 16:01 40 Demo See demo, blantant aimbot hacking and whitewalls. |
How can you have a demo of whitewalls?
:S
| QUOTE (Swift @ Apr 2 2005, 05:24 PM) |
| Heres another. # 7 "NSPlayer" 1652 STEAM_0:0:4160170 61 16:01 40 Demo See demo, blantant aimbot hacking and whitewalls. |
Trying to play the demo, the console reported I was lacking "addons/EntMod/models/v_phaser.mdl" and will not run. Any server/place I can download these customs from?
Blue: It's obvious; when he flies into the vent with the egg, before he even gets into the vent, he fires at it.
Al: I am not every sure. the server I when to (SOM) had it I guess... No one was using it though.
Google Entmod and you should also be able to get it.
Edit: wait, blue, accusing me of hacking? well, I wan't to make this completely clear: i r l33tz0rzx hax rofl lol ftw !111oneeleven.
Al: I am not every sure. the server I when to (SOM) had it I guess... No one was using it though.
Google Entmod and you should also be able to get it.
Edit: wait, blue, accusing me of hacking? well, I wan't to make this completely clear: i r l33tz0rzx hax rofl lol ftw !111oneeleven.
| QUOTE (zippy @ Apr 2 2005, 05:43 PM) |
| prob is there is very well tweaked aimboters so that you don't just lock on, and jump. Anyone got any demo proofing sites where you submit demos for them to say ya or na? Since co_ though hackers on servers are getting worse, only attracts the cs market and it's bringing down the game. |
That gets iffy, the easiest way is to look at play style. Good players tend to be twitchy and snap to the target as soon as it comes into view so they can put as much lead into it in the shortest time possible. Poor players who hack simply don't have this skill. You knowtice they play a fairly slow drifty game, but as soon as they touch a target and start firing they can't seem to miss and trail the thing perfectly. Get a nice long demo, check it against s4 = pige0n, and see if they can play alien worth crap. If you've got enough spec time it should be easy to determine weather a player is hacking or not.
Cal delta level players are much harder to pick out if they are aimbotting, since the twitches are natural, and they do them properly. Watch for ESPesk trailing through walls, and look to see if you see any variation in a lock whatsoever once they get it. No matter how good a player is they will not have a perfect lock, and variations in thier lock will be fairly different every time. If you see an incredibly predictable pattern in overshoot, or perfect locks you know you probably have an aimbot.
Then again im just a rate hacker to zippy lololol
Zippy your playing again
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Zippy your playing again
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| QUOTE (SaltzBad @ Mar 20 2005, 03:48 PM) |
| If you slowmo it though you can see the instant firing at the target, and the view following later |
That happens anyway, when either the demo taker or the person spectated has less than perfect rates.
but yea =]
Here's a very short demo of a hacker on co_pulse, I think.
Anyways, first, it shows him walking back to MS to pistol as skulk that's chomping on the CC. Note the instant lock-on when he fires the first shot.
Later on, he's getting ammo, and a skulk attacks him... it's not as obvious this time.
At the end, he starts welding the CC, so I stop the demo.
Enjoy. Try not to eat too much of that site's bandwidth though There's a limit.
Anyways, first, it shows him walking back to MS to pistol as skulk that's chomping on the CC. Note the instant lock-on when he fires the first shot.
Later on, he's getting ammo, and a skulk attacks him... it's not as obvious this time.
At the end, he starts welding the CC, so I stop the demo.
Enjoy. Try not to eat too much of that site's bandwidth though
There's a limit.
any news on getting esunubs demo's re hosted?
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gunner your link is down
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gunner your link is down
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| QUOTE (DarkFrost @ Apr 4 2005, 12:20 PM) | ||
That happens anyway, when either the demo taker or the person spectated has less than perfect rates. but yea =] |
Yeah I did some testing on it later on, and it happens practically all the time unless its a demo taken by the playing client. Regardless, the lack of normal movement pattern is easy to spot quarter time - and with such consistency, its either aimbotting or really bad luck on being demoed
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