Basically get SC first.... and play normally...
At the 2:00-2:30 mark ALL GET TO A PREDETERMINED AREA (all 11 skulks preferably, but on smaller servers ive done it with 6)
ALL OF YOU GET CLOAKING...
Now here's the kicker...
WALK TO MS... dont attack anything......
if you see a marine... literally 11 skulks climb the wall and wait for them to go by... dont attack.....
Right outside ms gather up again and RUSH THE CHAIR....
DO NOT BITE THE OBS, DO NOT BITE THE ARMORY, DO NOT BITE THE IP"S
Kill any marines at MS and then KILL THAT CHAIR....
Reasons this works:
Around the 2 minute mark, all taht is in base is mines, and they are NEVER around the chair, maybe one or two marines are at base ammoing up...
Comm has NO pre-warning that you are coming, no mt (if rushed) and no marines going HOLY **** 11 SKULKS INCOMING
Assuming it takes him 2 seconds to realize OMG WTH and another second to grab the obs and bacon... chair is already down GFG....
The point is the comm has no time to react...
Ive done this... 6 times so far on the NSArmslab classic server
Its worked 4 times (one time comm got new chair down, however he baconed first, so we slaughtered em all and theyn ever built new chair)
The only two times it failed were because two regulars on that server knew what i was going to do (having been around when i forumalated it, and told the comm, so he baconed at 2 minutes and handed out like 6 shotguns.....)
Anyways, ive had 2 comms throw a temper tantrum when i do this, and thus far it has not failed unless the enemy comm was tipped off by an evil marine who was devious and knew waht i was going to do
This would have worked in B5 too, but now that ppl do sensory first more often i can come up with new cool strats...
Variations include doing it within 30 seconds of the game, or seconds after you lose your 2nd hive...
Try it... laugh at how unbelievably effective it is
~Jason
Full Version: Most Kick **** Alien Strat Ever
| QUOTE |
| all 11 skulks preferably |
I think that's a phrase that I've never seen before and will never see again.
| QUOTE (theclam @ Mar 8 2005, 10:24 PM) | ||
I think that's a phrase that I've never seen before and will never see again. |
Meh.. ud think so... but I have this talent.... with my incessant bitching over voicecomm.. i can get ANYONE to do anything
Yeah... im a real motivator.... or some shiz like that
~Jason
I've got to start going to the NSA classic server - I have to see this. 
You mean at least 5 marines aren't humping the frigging armoury when you do this?
| QUOTE (freebirdpat @ Mar 8 2005, 11:51 PM) |
| You mean at least 5 marines aren't humping the frigging armoury when you do this? |
11 skulks>5 marines
And id have to say.... the times ive done it.... ive seen max 2 rines in base... who promptly die to 11 skulks
~Jason
12v12 servers are wonderful.
12v12 may be the new 8v8, if aliens keep on dominating like they are now.
I played a game about month ago. Base got owned I was last rine in other side of map than ms. I run to ms kill the skulk eating chair find out it needed 4 bites to kill. I made 2 ip`s obs and armory. In 3min skulk bited chair 4 times--> no more commcutie.
AFTER THAT WE KILLED 3 flipping HIVES!!!!
AFTER THAT WE KILLED 3 flipping HIVES!!!!
Have one of the Skulks stand on top of the Obs so the comm can't select it, hur hur hur.
Do you know comms, who dont have their obs hotkeyed 
| QUOTE (Rushakra @ Mar 9 2005, 08:27 AM) |
| Have one of the Skulks stand on top of the Obs so the comm can't select it, hur hur hur. |
This could be worth sigging. -,-
You didn't mention that one time on bast when marines had an obs in their base that pretty much showed a train of 8-10 skulks walking near marine start. Then christian got out of the chair, layed down a pack of mines and owned ALL of you vs. one.
So all you need is an obs near the doors so it can give you away.
So all you need is an obs near the doors so it can give you away.
if I see no kharaa activity as a comm I get paranoid and start to check, this includes base.
if you have a obs, they will never get the chair down to 75%, if you do not have a obs, listen and build a new CC somewhere else, preferably in there active hive.
Pls do, pls get your entire team in MS, we will **** up the hive no prob.
if you have a obs, they will never get the chair down to 75%, if you do not have a obs, listen and build a new CC somewhere else, preferably in there active hive.
Pls do, pls get your entire team in MS, we will **** up the hive no prob.
| QUOTE (Sarisel @ Mar 9 2005, 10:47 AM) |
| You didn't mention that one time on bast when marines had an obs in their base that pretty much showed a train of 8-10 skulks walking near marine start. Then christian got out of the chair, layed down a pack of mines and owned ALL of you vs. one. So all you need is an obs near the doors so it can give you away. |
No... the comm did not see us with his obs..... he saw us outside our hive with SCAN....
And the only reason he planted the mines was cuz SPOONDOG told him that we were coming and exactly what we were going to do...
ANd btw.. we got the chair to half health before some idiot landed on a mine and killed like 6 of us...
~Jason
| QUOTE (SLizer @ Mar 9 2005, 06:20 AM) | ||
This could be worth sigging. -,- |
that is such the h4x it's awesome
and yeah, jason I saw this strat on the NSAF, it's still win and I've been waiting for a chance to get on TLM and try it
This is kind of obvious but I can tell you if you know EVERYONE on the server or are a regular/admin (decent not power hog) you can pull this off. It WILL win you the game.
After this take down the IP, Observatory, arms lab etc....
This could win matches well in clan games.
After this take down the IP, Observatory, arms lab etc....
This could win matches well in clan games.
| QUOTE (J D W @ Mar 9 2005, 05:05 PM) |
| This is kind of obvious but I can tell you if you know EVERYONE on the server or are a regular/admin (decent not power hog) you can pull this off. It WILL win you the game. After this take down the IP, Observatory, arms lab etc.... This could win matches well in clan games. |
no sometimes its funner to just walk back out of rine start(cloaked)
And then spam LOL's in the all chat...
~Jason
I have suggested an idea like this before in pubs but it seems no one thinks it ever works and ignore me.
Shame on pubbiers. I would love to see this but I play on too non coordinated servers, maybe now if 3F would launch some new trend of teamwork(ftw)
Naw, any team can be decent. You just need to lay down the law, preferrably over voice comm.
"No, you're an idiot, don't go that way.
You're going to die anyway, you don't need 250 rounds YOU @#$%ING NOOB.
You have this thing in the top right corner of your screen called A RADAR. When you see THREE RED DOTS following you and hear Skulks biting behind you, MAYBE YOU SHOULD TURN AROUND AND SHOOT MORON.
If you're not going to build the RT, watch for Skulks instead of STARING AT ME.
That's great, the one time you hear a skulk and want to shoot it, it's on the other side of the wall. STOP LOOKING DOWN THE HALLWAY AND BUILD THE PHASE GATE RETARD.
If I start walking or crouch in a corner, it might be a good idea for you to FOLLOW SUIT INSTEAD OF HOPPING AROUND LIKE A MORON AND ATTRACTING ALL THE SKULKS.
Do you see that obnoxious, blinking blue circle on your screen? Touch it and you win the game.
No, I don't want you to try and solo the Onos with your pistol, I WANT YOU TO BUILD SMACKTARD.
When trying to ninja, it is GENERALLY NOT A GOOD IDEA TO SHOOT AT EVERY SKULK THAT DOES NOT SEE YOU.
We are going to beacon and then move out of base THIS WAY. We are not going to hump the armory for 20 seconds, or phase back to where ever, we are going to lea- NO, YOU IDIOT! GET OFF THE ARMORY! YES! NO! NO! WRONG WAY! TURN AROUND! DON'T SHOOT THE RT!
The HIVE is spawning skulks and allowing new ones to teleport in.. THE MOVEMENT CHAMBER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROOM IS NOT. STOP KNIFING."
Don't be afraid to be abusive. You're better at the game than them, they should listen to you if they enjoy winning. Y'know, unless they're one of those weirdos who think the fun part of the game is running off alone in the wrong direction to further increase their 0-15 ratio..
"No, you're an idiot, don't go that way.
You're going to die anyway, you don't need 250 rounds YOU @#$%ING NOOB.
You have this thing in the top right corner of your screen called A RADAR. When you see THREE RED DOTS following you and hear Skulks biting behind you, MAYBE YOU SHOULD TURN AROUND AND SHOOT MORON.
If you're not going to build the RT, watch for Skulks instead of STARING AT ME.
That's great, the one time you hear a skulk and want to shoot it, it's on the other side of the wall. STOP LOOKING DOWN THE HALLWAY AND BUILD THE PHASE GATE RETARD.
If I start walking or crouch in a corner, it might be a good idea for you to FOLLOW SUIT INSTEAD OF HOPPING AROUND LIKE A MORON AND ATTRACTING ALL THE SKULKS.
Do you see that obnoxious, blinking blue circle on your screen? Touch it and you win the game.
No, I don't want you to try and solo the Onos with your pistol, I WANT YOU TO BUILD SMACKTARD.
When trying to ninja, it is GENERALLY NOT A GOOD IDEA TO SHOOT AT EVERY SKULK THAT DOES NOT SEE YOU.
We are going to beacon and then move out of base THIS WAY. We are not going to hump the armory for 20 seconds, or phase back to where ever, we are going to lea- NO, YOU IDIOT! GET OFF THE ARMORY! YES! NO! NO! WRONG WAY! TURN AROUND! DON'T SHOOT THE RT!
The HIVE is spawning skulks and allowing new ones to teleport in.. THE MOVEMENT CHAMBER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROOM IS NOT. STOP KNIFING."
Don't be afraid to be abusive. You're better at the game than them, they should listen to you if they enjoy winning. Y'know, unless they're one of those weirdos who think the fun part of the game is running off alone in the wrong direction to further increase their 0-15 ratio..
My personal favourite to add to Rush's post..
PLEASE, if you see me unloading at something, assume it's an alien and have your gun ready so you can also shoot him before I get eaten..
The number of times I've died before my partner even realized there was a skulk around and he finished him off with 2 bullets, makes this my number one thing..
PLEASE, if you see me unloading at something, assume it's an alien and have your gun ready so you can also shoot him before I get eaten..
The number of times I've died before my partner even realized there was a skulk around and he finished him off with 2 bullets, makes this my number one thing..
| QUOTE (Rushakra @ Mar 10 2005, 08:24 AM) |
| Naw, any team can be decent. You just need to lay down the law, preferrably over voice comm. "No, you're an idiot, don't go that way. You're going to die anyway, you don't need 250 rounds YOU @#$%ING NOOB. You have this thing in the top right corner of your screen called A RADAR. When you see THREE RED DOTS following you and hear Skulks biting behind you, MAYBE YOU SHOULD TURN AROUND AND SHOOT MORON. If you're not going to build the RT, watch for Skulks instead of STARING AT ME. That's great, the one time you hear a skulk and want to shoot it, it's on the other side of the wall. STOP LOOKING DOWN THE HALLWAY AND BUILD THE PHASE GATE RETARD. If I start walking or crouch in a corner, it might be a good idea for you to FOLLOW SUIT INSTEAD OF HOPPING AROUND LIKE A MORON AND ATTRACTING ALL THE SKULKS. Do you see that obnoxious, blinking blue circle on your screen? Touch it and you win the game. No, I don't want you to try and solo the Onos with your pistol, I WANT YOU TO BUILD SMACKTARD. When trying to ninja, it is GENERALLY NOT A GOOD IDEA TO SHOOT AT EVERY SKULK THAT DOES NOT SEE YOU. We are going to beacon and then move out of base THIS WAY. We are not going to hump the armory for 20 seconds, or phase back to where ever, we are going to lea- NO, YOU IDIOT! GET OFF THE ARMORY! YES! NO! NO! WRONG WAY! TURN AROUND! DON'T SHOOT THE RT! The HIVE is spawning skulks and allowing new ones to teleport in.. THE MOVEMENT CHAMBER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROOM IS NOT. STOP KNIFING." Don't be afraid to be abusive. You're better at the game than them, they should listen to you if they enjoy winning. Y'know, unless they're one of those weirdos who think the fun part of the game is running off alone in the wrong direction to further increase their 0-15 ratio.. |
being abusive and bashing people by calling them "noobs" usually result in some very fast admin imposed mutes and kicks and bans
| QUOTE (kill4thrills @ Mar 10 2005, 02:00 PM) | ||
being abusive and bashing people by calling them "noobs" usually result in some very fast admin imposed mutes and kicks and bans |
Not on NSA... this is how i comm... to the dot....
The admins call it commhax and comm aimbot
Also i like to drop a bunch of CC's (cant wall, but creates a nice obstacle course) for the smacktards who wont listen to my micspam...
Yeah, and ill relocate that advanced armory and plop a new one outside the hive.... and you just watch those nubs knife like 10 onos just to hold thier precious armory.....
~Jason
I kinda also go like GET THE **** MOVING TO THE DAMN WAYPOINT.. NOO, YOU DON'T FULL AMMO.. YOU DIE LIKE 5 SECS.
And on xs4all, I aint gona ban myself now am I.
And on xs4all, I aint gona ban myself now am I.
sdjason have you ever thought that maybe some marines like to hear things? this is just based on what you've been telling us in this thread though.
8-9 rines in alien spawn, drop CC for them, trade bases, tick of doom starts, gg alien team :\
strat is vulnerable; if you have one jackass who messes up youre all screwed.
| QUOTE (Rushakra @ Mar 10 2005, 07:24 AM) |
| Naw, any team can be decent. You just need to lay down the law, preferrably over voice comm. "No, you're an idiot, don't go that way. You're going to die anyway, you don't need 250 rounds YOU @#$%ING NOOB. You have this thing in the top right corner of your screen called A RADAR. When you see THREE RED DOTS following you and hear Skulks biting behind you, MAYBE YOU SHOULD TURN AROUND AND SHOOT MORON. If you're not going to build the RT, watch for Skulks instead of STARING AT ME. That's great, the one time you hear a skulk and want to shoot it, it's on the other side of the wall. STOP LOOKING DOWN THE HALLWAY AND BUILD THE PHASE GATE RETARD. If I start walking or crouch in a corner, it might be a good idea for you to FOLLOW SUIT INSTEAD OF HOPPING AROUND LIKE A MORON AND ATTRACTING ALL THE SKULKS. Do you see that obnoxious, blinking blue circle on your screen? Touch it and you win the game. No, I don't want you to try and solo the Onos with your pistol, I WANT YOU TO BUILD SMACKTARD. When trying to ninja, it is GENERALLY NOT A GOOD IDEA TO SHOOT AT EVERY SKULK THAT DOES NOT SEE YOU. We are going to beacon and then move out of base THIS WAY. We are not going to hump the armory for 20 seconds, or phase back to where ever, we are going to lea- NO, YOU IDIOT! GET OFF THE ARMORY! YES! NO! NO! WRONG WAY! TURN AROUND! DON'T SHOOT THE RT! The HIVE is spawning skulks and allowing new ones to teleport in.. THE MOVEMENT CHAMBER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROOM IS NOT. STOP KNIFING." Don't be afraid to be abusive. You're better at the game than them, they should listen to you if they enjoy winning. Y'know, unless they're one of those weirdos who think the fun part of the game is running off alone in the wrong direction to further increase their 0-15 ratio.. |
| QUOTE (TOmekki @ Mar 10 2005, 04:13 PM) |
| sdjason have you ever thought that maybe some marines like to hear things? this is just based on what you've been telling us in this thread though. |
Id rather have you use strategy and not be able to hear than be rambo's with high kill to death ratio's
That is all....
Also @NGE
Did you even read my post....
The whole point of this strat is the comm doesent see it coming and has no time to react...
Suure ive seen comms on the ball and drop a chair real fast if rines go OMG THE WHOLE TEAM RUSHING FRMO COMPLAB, or if he can see it on mt.... this negates both of it...
All he gets is a "commchair is under-" and he pops out and dies to 11 skulks
Thats the beauty of it....
~Jason
Ok, le'ts crunch some numbers. One skulk can bite approximately 3 times a second, with 75 damage per bite.
There are, in theory, 11 skuks all biting the chair (although I'm not sure if there's enough room) but let's just say there are, the damage pers second is (11 * 3 * 75) = 2475 damage a second. A comm chair has 1000 hp, so the comm has apprimately 4 second to respond. More realistically though, there won't be 11 skulks there, and not everyone will start biting at the same time. I give the comm at least 6 seconds to respond. That should be just enough time to drop a comm chair, and maybe activate beacon.
There are, in theory, 11 skuks all biting the chair (although I'm not sure if there's enough room) but let's just say there are, the damage pers second is (11 * 3 * 75) = 2475 damage a second. A comm chair has 1000 hp, so the comm has apprimately 4 second to respond. More realistically though, there won't be 11 skulks there, and not everyone will start biting at the same time. I give the comm at least 6 seconds to respond. That should be just enough time to drop a comm chair, and maybe activate beacon.
The alert probably won't play until a few seconds have passed, meaning the comm has less time to react than that.
If the Aliens are coordinated enough to get 11 skulks into your base at once while no one's around to stop them, you need to start cursing over the voice comm and unplug your computer.
| QUOTE (Rushakra @ Mar 12 2005, 02:08 AM) |
| If the Aliens are coordinated enough to get 11 skulks into your base at once while no one's around to stop them, you need to start cursing over the voice comm and unplug your computer. |
If you can organize 11 skulks to take down the comm chair, you have just won the game. With that level of teamwork on alien part, you can just have a big 11-skulk group wandering around and, well, owning. Nodes can go down in about 2 seconds with 11 skulks chomping on them, obs goes down in <1.
It's unrealistic, though. It'll be really hard to organize a group as big as that.
Well you *can*, but assuming just as much organization on the marine side, they can easily take down your hive at the same time, and force you to die from ping of death. A competant commander can still drop a comm chair in time. Remember, an obs decloaks aliens, and if I see 11 red dots in my base, I'd relocate.
indeed, preferably in there current hive.
... wait a minute... that wouldnt work if you had an obs lab... it would uncloak the aliens near the obs... and i have an obs up in 1 minute... this would only work if it was an armslab first comm... this would take an increadably large amount of co-op with the team... i can get a good 75% of my team in the server i play in to do what i say but there is always the noob who doesnt know english or logic...
I risk it and get armslab first. Then again, indeed, get this done and you are perfect.
Another thing is, we do have a person BUILDING n base now don't we? he either spots them or dies, anywayz if you see a death/kill score for your builder, and you hear multiple sounds, you know its time to hit the CC button and reloc.
Another thing is, we do have a person BUILDING n base now don't we? he either spots them or dies, anywayz if you see a death/kill score for your builder, and you hear multiple sounds, you know its time to hit the CC button and reloc.
11 skulks, impossible, especially in a pub... in organized teams in 1337 CPL server, thats another story.
Wow. I haven't been here in ages...
Point made previously, but if you have enough teamwork to get 11 skulks together in a pub, then you probably have enough teamwork to win the game no matter what happens.
Unless, of course, the marines counter with the same sincerity of teamwork.
And besides, what happens if 11 marines start shooting your hive a couple seconds before you start attacking the comm chair?
Point made previously, but if you have enough teamwork to get 11 skulks together in a pub, then you probably have enough teamwork to win the game no matter what happens.
Unless, of course, the marines counter with the same sincerity of teamwork.
And besides, what happens if 11 marines start shooting your hive a couple seconds before you start attacking the comm chair?
Actually, while this maneuver requires a lot of teamwork, it requires very little individual skill. An alien team could have lost a game because they don't have much skill, instead of winning with this strategy.
I'd say with marines seeking res fast these days, a delayed rush would work really well. Wait like 2 minutes then attack. If skulks are fast enough to kill the cc they could run back and defend the hive?
1/4 we are SO doing this on LM some time. Even if they have an obs, 6-8 skulks in MS at one time all but undetected = a real smashed up MS, and with a few sense in the hive you know that marines are there before they know the hive is there. This strat is brutal when it works. Yes the obs would decloak all the skulks as soon as they got in range of the base, but honestly, you try to kill 8 skulks rushing into MS all at once while you are trying to ammo up your peashooter.
I mean a good com with drop another CC somewhere, but still, eating marine start in one foul swoop is a huge res hit to any marine team, and if you pull it off fast enough all the aliens lose is maby a few skulks and a good few res posititions... which with no IPs on the map for several minutes, should be cake for cloaker skulks to take back.
I mean a good com with drop another CC somewhere, but still, eating marine start in one foul swoop is a huge res hit to any marine team, and if you pull it off fast enough all the aliens lose is maby a few skulks and a good few res posititions... which with no IPs on the map for several minutes, should be cake for cloaker skulks to take back.
It's still very risky. You could be trading your hive for the comm chair.
Just do gorgerush. It`s in same level with this and much more fun!
Why not just get silence? then you got a giant big ball of bouncy skulk death... I mean nobody would hear 11 skulks coming till they saw them, and then they would lose all control over bodily functions.
dude > building base > dies
nuff said
nuff said
| QUOTE (freebirdpat @ Mar 15 2005, 10:48 AM) |
| Why not just get silence? then you got a giant big ball of bouncy skulk death... I mean nobody would hear 11 skulks coming till they saw them, and then they would lose all control over bodily functions. |
Not really much teamwork involved at all....
Just one person mic spamming (me) until people listen....
Plus i have a cult following on that server... people go "Listen to him, win or lose itll be fun"
As to the obs in base.. ive never done it without an obs in base.... but if you pause outside ms (right at obs range) then rush in.... u can hit teh chair in 30 seconds.....
At 2 minutes into the game a comm usually feels that 4 mines around teh IP is sufficient.. and isnt constantly scanning base, itll take him a few seconds to notice the red dots on teh minimap (prolly will check after dropping a node or something and see them around teh chair.....
The reason to do cloaking over silence is the only way for this to work is if ur on teh chair before the comm see's it..... you can sneak past marines leaving ms, without them seeing 11 skulks and belting a warning to the comm....
If the map is tanith and 3 marines are walking thru west skylights and another 3 walking down topo hallway... the comm is gonna feel pretty secure that base is cool, thats when u pounce and attack....
Yeah 2 marines in base wont do much.. maybe 3 kills before they kick the bucket..... and that leaves 8 skulks to bite.... but most comms still will be delayed into thinking they can bacon and save the chair, and/or not drop a new one quick enuff...
Yeah the remaining marines could attack your hive.... as you take out thier base...
But when is the last time marines were able to take down a hive without ammo?? yeah they can knife it a bit... but chances are 10 marines arent sitting outside ur hive 2 min into teh game... they are spread out all over tarnation getting resnodes and securing ****......
As to the people who say lots of teamwork... No... there really is no teamwork in this, just following orders by me.... Teamwork is mutual, this is just monkey listen monkey do ****.... and it works
You can run the numbers in your head all day and theorize about how most comms will get a chair down in time or most comm's constantly watch base or have a 7th sense....bla bla bla....
Fact is... this is combat proven to me... with a ~75 percent sucess rate... never failed if teh chair goes down, usually fails if some idiot bites a rine right out of ms and we are forced to rush in as he is beaconing because our cover is blown cuz that idiot wouldng climb on the ceiling and let him go by...
Keep theorizing... ill keep giving commanders hissy fits in game....
~Jason
Durr, what about doing the same with georges and start spamming oc's in there?
| QUOTE (Zaggy @ Mar 16 2005, 04:45 AM) |
| Durr, what about doing the same with georges and start spamming oc's in there? |
If you drop OC's in there, the CC isn't dead in seconds, allowing the comm to drop a new CC or beacon. The comm has a chance to react, so it is a completely different strategy.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.