exactly. You'll notice that ALL the attacks and skills have the same values in CO as in NS...the devs want it that way. simple as that. So if you want to propose a balance change in combat, it'd affect ns classic as well. No point in arguing, that's just how it is.

how was devour changed? i dont notice any difference...

You sir, are very imperceptive

*Cough*Devour time*cough*

The time it takes to be devoured in combat is less then 10 seconds - it's 30 in an NS map.

oh...duh...my bad

*hides in a corner*

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Just close your eyes and open your mouth.

*Me takes out a stick of butter and forces it down x5s throat. Then i am picking him up and start shaking him, till he creames himself*
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OK stupid talk aside:
Why do you want to delete co?
Dont you enjoy beeing able to play as an onos or fade once in a while, witheout having to really care about what your teammates do? I like co, cause even with only 15 minutes of free time i can have alot of fun and i dont need to instruct other players at:
Why it is no good to place OC directly in the hive room.
Why ppl are supposed to ask before dropping SC.
Why they cant always reevolve to fade once they died.
Why they cant choose any advanced weapons by themself.
Why i wont supply a single rine with 6 ammopacks at once.


Compared to CO NS has just too many frustrating moments. And even when my team looses, cause no one went gorge (including me) i had usually much fun.

In NS it is just plain frustrating that i am sometimes the only one that goes gorge and then places an rt. Then waits for another 15 res........ In the end my team blames me for not placing a hive while the only thing they did was res ###### and going fade, just to die to the next 3 rines they met. CO guarantees always for fun matches on nearly every server, while good NS matches require me to check my favorites and force me to look at every single one in order to check wheter the NS lovers are there or not.

So please dont take my pacifier away. It is just too much fun to suck on.

I kind of understand Flayras intention in balancing both with equal values. It makes sense. However, combat should be a resemblance of Classic, not vice versa.

So if combat should solve its purpose of a training mod for those newcommers who want to play classic but find it too difficult (besides entertaining those who wanna play TFC with aliens), then the values must be equal.

Also, the gameplay must be as equal as possible. For example, It was imho a very good descision to make Aliens respawn as skulks. It was extremely harmful for classic gameplay before the change, as newbies hoarded their res (in best interest for the team!) to evolve as quickly as possible, then died and wondered why they don't respawn as Fade.
I would do the same for marines. Not because it slows them down after respawn, but purely out of principle.
All classic balance issues furtermore must be balanced in classic, not in combat. Like the increased armor values with aditional hives. Great idea and working.

I would suggest an experience penalty for dying. In classic, death is punished by a loss of ressources, both for marines and for aliens. In combat, the worst thing with dying is that the one who killed you might gain a level.
However if you loose experience for every death (no levels, just the current xp on the current level) people would start to play more carefull.