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Thatamos
Well I have been making this model for a while and put alot of time and effort into it. Sadly I have yet to be satisfied with this model myself as to the poor quality of details and scuffs and such. That's a result in this being my first model. It was originally created for the aug in Counter Strike but I decided that since this is a high-tech gun of the future, it would suit ns better. Though it is a very
satisfying (<<< is that word right? tounge.gif ) as an aug, I felt people needed a good model for the lmg. Being a NS player myself I felt that since the Halo 1 Rifle was such a poor excuse of a model to even slightly show off the greatness of Halo, I have decided to take it upon myself to make a Halo 2 Rifle.

It's currently going through a retexturing through my friends Fireworks but I'd still like some help on the model itself.

I need an animator to fix my bloody animations because when I saved my Halo 2 Rifle model (file was a v_aug model) to my lmg using HLMV, the animations got all re-arranged (draw animation looks like fire1 and reload became draw etc etc.)

I also need someone who is experienced with making models very detailed. I can provide all the concept pictures you'll need from a player holding it (all these pictures will be taken off of Halo 2) and actual pictures of the gun on different angles.

I obviously can't do this on my own so I'm asking for help from the guys who are interested in bringing this idea to life.

For more details email me at www.strife0002@walla.com
You can also resort to MSN or AIM
My AIM sn is Thatamos0002

Please guys, I'd truely appreciate it if someone would lend me a hand becides my unexperienced self and unexperienced friends.


....................GO MARINES!!!!! asrifle.gif hive5.gif ..........................................


Thatamos
So wait....out of nearly 80 people so far who have read the post no one will help me?? sad-fix.gif :*( ........... asrifle.gif nerd-fix.gif
Zaggy
Would love to help, but I cannot mesh, skin or model, I'm sorry sad-fix.gif .
Thatamos
What do you do? Cuz I wanna learn how to map too tounge.gif
You kno, even a reskin with photoshop would be great, I would do it...if I had it...I did what I did so far with milkshape, hlmv, and ms pain :-/, shows you how low budget I am (btw the milkshape is the trail version)
Viper_two_nine_A
Thatamos:
http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...hp?showforum=43
the video tutorials are really good
Chrono
QUOTE (v29a @ Nov 5 2004, 02:16 PM)
Thatamos:
http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...hp?showforum=43
the video tutorials are really good
Drfuzzy
Sounds like a lack of knowing how to compile to me...
SnappyCrunch
The sad fact is on these forums that a lot of people are really lazy, and/or not interested in what you're doing. Usually, if you want something done, you've gotta do it yourself.

I suggest reading the CS Girl tutorial to learn the basics of modelling in Milkshape. Modelling a player isn't the same as modelling a gun, but it covers a lot of the basics, like building a model from reference pics, meshing, skinning, and compiling models.

You might want to check out the Paint Shop Pro trial version as well, for creating skins. It's a lot more powerful than MS paint smile-fix.gif
Thatamos
There's an update to the Halo2 Rifle. Thanks for the tips, there are many more updates yet to come (p and w models and a new scope lense) For a suitable player model I suggest you go to www.thrill2kill.com
Thatamos
There's an update to the Halo2 Rifle. I've improved the model quality so its more eye candy. The barrel still suxors like your brain on drugs (OMGWTHNUBHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXIHOPEIGIVEYOUINDIGESTION!)
Thanks for the tips, there are many more updates yet to come (p and w models and a new scope lense) For a suitable player model I suggest you go to www.thrill2kill.com and get the halo model thats apparantly straight out of the xbox. It looks ok but im seeing if someone will fix its small glitches (hands, pelvis, butt, top and back of head, the back)
Thatamos
Oh and for those who want to see it, just pm me and ill give u the v model i ahve done so far tounge.gif lol sorry i forgot that small part tounge.gif
esuna
How about just posting pictures.
Thatamos
I was going to do that but the pic is 1.37 megs tounge.gif i took it straight from hlmv and even when i compressed it with winrar it was too big for the small crappy 120k maximum here
esuna
QUOTE (Thatamos @ Nov 7 2004, 02:09 AM)
I was going to do that but the pic is 1.37 megs tounge.gif i took it straight from hlmv and even when i compressed it with winrar it was too big for the small crappy 120k maximum here

Go download The Gimp (gimp.org, completely free image manipulation program) and compress them as jpeg's with about 75% quality, that should make even full screenshots under 100k.
Thatamos
Thanx to Esuna you all can see my progress so far biggrin-fix.gif
Enjoy and now I shall get back to work for bout an hour then im off to bed, if you guys have any suggestions or requests to the model just PM me and I'll get to you ASAP marine.gif

**Edited** lol, Just like me to forget to post the freaking image tounge.gif **Edited**
Well here it is
mirrodin
Make the barrel (where bullets come from) slightly smaller.

Your scope seems bent up confused-fix.gif

The hand gripping the front of the gun seems rather wierd.

Other than that, good job.
Thatamos
Some more angles coming up
Thatamos
Some more angles
Thatamos
Last pic of angles
Thatamos
QUOTE
Make the barrel (where bullets come from) slightly smaller.

Your scope seems bent up

The hand gripping the front of the gun seems rather wierd.

Other than that, good job.


Told you they sucked, I plan on fixing them next but I'm having issues so as of now I'm asking for help. Yes I've done the tutorials and crap but I just need some help from someone experienced that can just give me small tips. I'd like it if someone who wants this to go on to just help me out. PM me if you want to wink-fix.gif
Commie_Spy
wink-fix.gif dude thatamos - can you make the hands look default?
JediYoshi
How does the actual part of the gun we'll be looking at look like?
SnappyCrunch
It's left handed? Huh...
StarStarGrizzly
How does it reload? Does it have animations already?
Thatamos
Dear lord I sleep for like 6 hours and all these question 0.o

Yes it is left handed for now but I'd like to make a seperate model to make it right handed but I currently dont know how to do that. Someone up for it? Shouldn't be too hard.

The in-game look isn't that great since this is only the beta but I shall get you an in-game pic

And yes there are animations, just MSN me or PM me and I will give you the .smd
If you dont know what that is I'll just give you the model and you can view them on hlmv.

My animations that I've done are final but if you guys want to tweek them, have at it, if I like them i'll integrate them in and ye shall receive thanks in the credits smile-fix.gif

All effort to help me with this model will be credited.

You have my word on it.
Thatamos
Well the pic is kinda self explanatory and the previous post I made tell you everything else tounge.gif
Perdition
Doesnt look bad at all.
Thatamos
I'm not satisfied with it, this is only going to be concidered the beta testing of the final product.

List of changes expected to be made :
P and W models will be made
Scope lense will be replaced
I will force my friend that has fireworks to smooth out the edges to my rifle
I will continue to improve the detail on it (scruffs/marks like it would be in Halo 2)

I will also include that player model IF I get permission from the creator.
That player model is alsome btw, there's just some problems.

There are some meshing issues (I think that's the problem) on these spots :
Whole back of the head and neck
Top of the head
Hands
Pelvis
Butt
Back

Why a silver color!? GREEN IS THE WAY TO GO!!!

If anyone can re-skin this I'll include it in the Halo 2 Rifle release when I'm satisfied with it.

Those who help me in this also will be credited.

Oh and is there anyone out there that can make some hands/arms for this for the Halo lovers to have an authentic feel like non other while playing NS?
Chubbieboi
looks nice and chunky smile-fix.gif
Thatamos
Yah, I'm getting that fixed.......lol I justt remembered how I was trying to do all this on MS Paint, it wasn't even PRO for gods sake. lol well now I'm getting my friend with photoshop/fireworks to do what he can on making look smoother.

I'm having a problem though. I have a custom muzzleflash (green muzzleflash) and when I shoot the muzzleflahs is so freaking huge I can't even see 1/4 of my damn screen. Anyone wanna give ma few tips here?
Venmoch
The reason why its silver?

BecauseI was given the X-Box mesh and skin to assign to the NS skeleton.

The basic Halo skin is that silver one. The game engine just makes it green.
Thatamos
**Edited Esuna fixed my problems, It's gonna take me forever to get my **** back though**
HellspawnUK
post the mdl and someone will decompile it for u im sure
Thatamos
That's always the lazy approach!!! Yes Sir, Sir Hellspawn Sir! marine.gif

Oh yah that's right, I CAN'T POST THE DAMM THING CUZ THE POST LIMIT IS 120K AND THIS IS 1.13 MGS mad-fix.gif

Is there a way to make it much smaller so I could post the model?
Thatamos
I've been wanting to make a right handed model of this but I came up in a dead end. Would someone be willing to MSN me and I can give it to you and you can right hand it?
HellspawnUK
delete it and it becomes a few bytes, on failing that approch you could find a small hosting site for temp storage

use www.ripway.com

username - test
password - test

host for a few mins or so till i can get it then i'll host it for u
Clashen
Post the model and i'll mirror it and make the skin greenish for you.
Thatamos
It's initially not supposed to be greenish but I can add it as your variant in the final pack. I'll post my reference pics. I need massive help with the front barrel though. I can't fix it and it's really **** me off, someone wanna lend a hand? The safety release like the one from Halo 1 (not included in the pc version of teh AR for some reason) will just be an add on and the only way that'll be included is if someone else does it tounge.gif
Thatamos
Here's one from the front
Thatamos
**Edited** Ignore this post
Thatamos
QUOTE
The reason why its silver?

BecauseI was given the X-Box mesh and skin to assign to the NS skeleton.

The basic Halo skin is that silver one. The game engine just makes it green.



Then how would I change it to green and do you have any idea to fix those small problems here and there?
LtHicks
QUOTE (Thatamos @ Nov 7 2004, 10:51 AM)
Halo 2 Rifle

I'm not sure if the link works or not, if it doesn't let me know.

Nope doesnt work. I keep getting this message.



"The request is not supported."
Thatamos
Ok here's a working link
Halo 2 Assault Rifle
LtHicks
QUOTE (Thatamos @ Nov 7 2004, 11:11 AM)
Ok here's a working link
Halo 2 Assault Rifle

Ehh... I'm sorry to say but, still does not really work. confused-fix.gif
Venmoch
QUOTE (Thatamos @ Nov 7 2004, 03:55 PM)
Then how would I change it to green and do you have any idea to fix those small problems here and there?

No idea on the Green, you could probably Adjust the Hue in photoshop though.

And the only way to fix those small problems is a full on remesh/UVW map
Burncycle
Some of those features are begging to be modeled in biggrin-fix.gif
Thatamos
If you want to then by all means, do with this model as you please, I'll put it into the pack I'll make if you guys make variants. Have fun with it and send me your results and btw that link does work ....atleast for me....I have to do ctrl+left click for it to go though......THIS WAS HELLSPAWNS IDEA *points finger at hellspawn with tears in eyes and puppy dog face*
Thatamos
OK to hell with the link just MSN me at strife002@hotmail.com or IM me on AIM, I'm Thatamos0002

IF u want the model use those means to contact me, if not email me and ill see that you get it....unless i can get this link **** fixed, dont erly on the links
Thatamos
Well with the expert help from Grizzly, we have a working mirror to my model (tested it between 3 other people tounge.gif )

Halo 2 Assault Rifle

If you want to modify this you must consult to me first and tell me what you wish to do with her.....and where your taking her for the night and when you'll be back tounge.gif

YOU MAY NOT MODIFY THIS MODEL WITHOUT CONSULTING TO ME FIRST!!!!111oneoneoneoneone
Smexy_Wolfy
question: Can i make it right handed?
Very nice model, using.
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