Well, this is quite possibly the last thing I intend to do with NS, especially since I never even released more than half of my other high poly NS stuff, and since I don't feel like hearing any bitching here is how this will work:

1) I am not looking for CC, I will modify the model as I see fit, I don't want your opinions
2) I am not asking you to tell me what you think of the model or the UVW maps
3) I am only doing this to give everyone an opportunity to have the model, since last time I made something all they did was complain about my crappy texture job, despite the fact that with the exception of maybe 2 people, no one could have done any better themselves

with that said, keep your flames and disrespectful comments to yourself, or this will not be released, download the files, and give it your hand at texturing it, see what you can come up with

concept:


picture:


download:
http://ice.nsarmslab.com/HPSoldierUVW.zip


final note: only people attempting to texture it and are experience difficulty can post problems and complaints, I will attempt to help clear up any confusion, as this is a complex set of maps

that's damn sexy ice, always liked your stuff

that gun in the picture you used is also being modeled right now, these could go well together

maybe i'll give it ago... i've never really tried anything organic (aka people)

Hey Ice, did I ever tell you I love you?

It's so true.

I also want the gun on the pic for shotty... :/
gj on the model, hope it will get done

too bad the legs are still so fat and stuff, but that's ok, can be fixed by moving some verteces afterwards i guess

Feel quite outraged almost about the opening statement you made so i shant be touching the skin in anyway shape or form

Man, you customization people sure are bitchy...

I think this model's great, to be honest, and the maps are pretty easy to follow for a uv map (which generally aren't easy to follow anyway).

It looks really nice. Congrats. Now I am thinking this is light marine, any plans on doing a Heavy?

This is really, really nice!
I'll give a go at skinning, although I have horrible work habbits and whatnot I just want to take a look at what I can get...
Awesome Ice, I love you man, I love you...
-Dan

Look, I know my opening statements make me sound bitchy or whatever, but I state them for a reason, because I honestly do NOT want to hear complaints, they don't help the process any, I always enjoy hearing people's appreciation for my work, but generally that is not the case, and all it does is **** me off, and after all this IS my thread, so if you don't want to oblige my rules, don't post here, it's pretty simple...

Drealit, that sounds awesome man I'd love to see what you can produce for this, as I have loved all your textures in the past, and if you have any problems, I can always lend a helping hand, as I have done a few organic models and textures before, keep me updated on your progress, looking forward to it

Btw Ice, Clickity

Fuzzy this isn't exactly a collaboration, this is a UVW release as the title implies, not like anyone ever checks the collaboration forums anyway...

fuzzy man, lay off. i hate seeing you post a link to the sub forums everytime someone posts something in here. There are no strict rules to my knowlege saying thay have to go in there.

Ice I love the model. But if you were a BIT nicer, people would want to texture it.
It's not exactly logical to tell people to Shut the H*** up about it and just texture it.

Not critting your model, but your attitude. If you really wanted it done you would ask politely.
Again, great effort and model all the same.

model sucks
uv's suck
ice sucks


<3

Ice is a nice guy.. and if u got annoyed by all the annoying nubbies then u would post sumthing like that too. hes already being nice to make this n give to us so dont talk big bull.

If a person didnt texture this model because they dont like ice then they have a problem. This model is awsome and if u dont like then i can see why you wouldnt texture it but if you do liek and you wouldnt texture it then see a conselour.

im going to give this a go but slowlyer then normal because im doing tons and tons of differnt thing right now in both real life and stuff on the computer.

(OFFTOPIC) EDIT: booo u republican big bull. to bad kerry lost

nice model, hope it gets textured ...

only way it will is if all of you stop having mood swings on the ns forums tho

model looks nice... just like the hands....

im not even going to comment on your horrible horrible attitude...

**** i just did...

Axman take it easy. My attitude is very optimistic. Im not telling ice to do, just suggesting. Never will I have the skill to do what Ice does, but being a polite person doesn't take a rocket scientist.

Of course, Ice feels disrespected and he grabs what he gets, and throws it back. Im just saying..2 wrongs dont make a right.

Forget what Ive said. SOmeone texture this baby.

Agreed, everyone put it behind them and get the project done, I'm not looking for friends or fans, or to have people like me, I've already given up on that, and I had originally planned never to return to these forums, especially being as busy as I am now with Ghost Ops mod, but I thought about making one last charitable contribution, and instead of having another flame war in my threads like I usually do, I merely established rules in the first post, I said nothing negative or anything to deserve people's disrespect of my attitude, you guys need to understand that or else people like me will not want to make anything for you.

I left originally because of the large issue with people making comments despite my request that they NOT make comments, so to avoid this problem again, I put it all in bullets in the first post, how do you all view some one's request when they are doing you favors? When some one gives you something for free the least you can do is oblige their rules, and that's all I'm asking, I am just sick of hearing on the hypocritical bs coming out of every 2 out of 3 people who feel the need to waste thread space with needless and insulting spam, it does not help me any, I'm certainly not gonna want to please you if insult me, so let it go.

In case some of you are just skimming through my text here, as is usually the case, I will reiterate, drop it, and get it done.

Well put.


Are you reanimating the marine? Walking etc


I just read your reply on NSA.

Nvm.

care to enlighten us bigbull?

I already commented this in the model competion thread, and it rocks just as much now as it did then...

You know, some nice high poly animated hands and guns would go really nice with this model

Exams finish tomorrow morning, i'll take a plug at it.

Just my input though - i find that the best way of dealing with people online is to flat out ignore the comments you don't want to hear. Some people have the right attitude and can accept complaints/criticisms all in their stride, others can't - it's only human. Allowing people to get on your nerves and making sweeping statements like that opener there ice, will only fuel the flames further, and you end up being a product of your own misery in doing so.

Don't bring it upon yourself, be better than it.

Regarding the ignorance thing, I have tried it, and all it results in is endless spam that masks any relevance or valid advice contributed by anyone of merit. I also believe people should have to learn and that their stupidity should be mocked, they need to realise this before it does them real harm.

regarding the high poly arms things....

I already did high poly arms.....

::points to 2 month old flame locked thread consisting of maybe one page of valid comments, and another 18 of bs::

I know the sentiment myself. Its extremely annoying when you create something only to have people gripe it into oblivion.

You guys are STILL talking about Ice's attitude? Personally, I didn't see anything offending from hime. Same ol Ice that I love.


Less talk, more skin.

Very Nice model, especially considering I've always wanted someone to model on that concept. You still havent changed your attitude though, but I'll just shut up now.

mmmm nice model ice, i see you added some more leg armour.. awesome

<3

I dont like the legs :/

sigh

leave the model alone he's already asked you not to post critisism

Indeed guys, but let's get past the flames here, and focus on getting some textures done, if enough good textures get done (at least one set) I'll even consider reanimating some of it

Imagine sexy new model, new textures, and new animations all in one...

pertaining to the legs, I can NOT alter the legs, regardless of what you think of them, they are too long and misproportional I know, but this is because of the default bone structure, the hip bone places the pivot bones for either thigh way too high up on the model, and the only way to have the model animate properly is to fit the legs to the bone structure... so unless you guys would rather a model that looks good while not moving and like **** while moving than a model that looks semi-decent all the time, learn to live with the legs, you don't notice it in game...

[edit: not to mention I DID post the model, both .3ds and ms3d format, so anyone here could give a shot at fixing it... anyone who can do better is welcome to try]

I do very much hope this gets done 0-o

Beautiful. I'd love to see it textured.

Polycount?

Also, link to those high poly arms? I searched but all I see is a link to this thread.

chrissakes.

Of course, posting ANY creative work on a public venue such as the internet invites criticism. if there was an End User Agreement for the internet, that would be in it. I suppose I'm saying that if you wish not to hear criticisms, ignore them. Either that or don't post creative works on an internet forum

In short: deal with it. The vast majority of criticisms are for the benefit of the author (showing how the certain work is not acceptable to the very people that you are releasing it to). As someone who's written for a long time, I very much love it when people tear my works apart and actually very much dislike it when I am treated to a deluge of 'OMG REALLY GUD's.

My advice would be to understand what your priorities really should be (i.e. improving rather than proving the point that you're already better than everyone else, so you don't need to bother) and take these criticisms for what they are: help for you, the creator.

"Internet is filled with fools, and the biggest in the faction of fools are those who dare to harass you for no cogent reason at all. Those are the lowest of lifeforms on earth, and doesnt have a voice in the real world, therefore they live out it here, where none can do anything against it."

Ice is probably the most honest and mature person on those forums (at least in my opinion.)
I respect his attitude towards other people, since its nothing wrong with it, and I just love his models (And skins! ).
Other people just has problems accepting his wishes, because people here has an URGE to criticize other peoples work, even though they cant do better themselves.

I'd love to see this finished, would work perfectly with those hp-arms, which I hold so close to my heart, hehe

Edit: Typo

people give their opinions you cant stop people from doing that i say just ignore it


if i see something i dont like ill tell you about it even if i cant do better

people get over it already this discussion is getting very very old

and if your looking for the high poly arms go to NSA and get the "Utility Axe"

Ice's arms came with a complimentary axe ftw

com'ere skulky i gotta AXE you a question