im in the process of making a co map yet i feel its going to be to big.

but i was wondering what kind of max time you feel is the max to get from the CC to the hive, taking the main (shortest) rout as a marine?

or is the time taken to get there only part of what makes a map a good co map.

iv done a quick test and it seems that most co maps take 20 seconds to get from CC to hive. max i found being 30 seconds.

i did a run of what i have of my map and it took 20 seconds but that was only about 1/2 of the way , and the other routes are even longer.

i expect the time taken to get to the hive will be around 45-60 seconds

i know every1 is just going 2 say to make the map smaller but this is a.. 'special' co map im making and needs a certian amount of areas.

so any other suggestions?

hmm.. just thinking.. how about some weldable phasegates?.. not sure where i could put them tho..

thx

MADMEE

personaly i think that beacuse of the new balances that makeing the longer walking times might be a good idea we need diffrent size combat maps to give a diffrent feal finish your map the way you invisioned then then worry about time taken as long as you think its balanced time shouldent matter untill the end

I'd say finish it and PT it and see how it works out. Sounds nice and large. Since spawning for large games is one of the things supposedly slated for fixing in the next beta, a big co map might be a very good thing. Anyone who's ever tried playing a map like faceoff or core on a large server knows how much of a pain that can be. A map that can accomodate 20+ players well would be a welcome addition.

no, no its not a box. so far it is made from 6,335 solids and has 36,966 faces.

i carnt even tell u the name of the map as that would give it away

i carnt really provide any good screenies as i need to do a light compile and i havent done many and iv gota get the light just right for the map to work me thinks.

however there are somescreenies in this thread.. http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...showtopic=81494

and yes the problems i had in that thread are fixed.

i was hoping to do a quick compile without rad but its found some leaks that iv fixed and now i dont have time to do a compile.

i was hoping to have the map done by the end of the week, but the release date keeps beeing put back further and further (wanted it done by last friday so i could concentrate on playing Rome: Total War)


As for the comments so far i understand that on a big server it could be quite good, yet on the smaller servers (which there seem to be alot more of) i think you may spend a lot of time on your own

Well iv just done the first compile of the complete map layout.. without lights so no.. still no screenshots.

Anyway back on topic... it takes average of around 40 seconds to do a CC to Hive run as marine.

So what do u think? double some of the offical maps and 10 seconds longer than 1 of them.

i was actually quite surprised that it only took 40 seconds. i was expecting higher. Even the longest route took a lot less time than i expected

P.S thank god for Xp-Cagey planes optimiser down to 38% full from 154%
and it was a close call on the clip nodes too... 99.8% full ... time for some clip brushes me thinks!

when I first checke the times in my map, I came to the conclusion that it is unimportant how long you will take for one route. it des matter how the way "feels". maybe one route will only take 25 seconds. but there are a lot of obstacles, a lot of places where you have to be careful.
under 30 seconds there might be a slight problem when marines advance to quick and lockdown an important location. 30-45 is quite ok. when the route takes more than 50 seconds, the player will notice it as "far away" and therefore you will have less "pressure" in the gameplay. shorter distances create a more continued battle.

but at the end the editor space tells you the max-time you can have in one map

remember it's a co_map

20 - 30 seconds is a good time less will be crazy more will be boring.

I've made an extra big co_map. The walk from MS to Hive takes about 1 minute. But nobody played my map...

rendy, lets guess: co_overmind?

I thought combat wasn't meant for 20 players D: