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MarcosLostPW
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KungFuDiscoMonkey
Very neat use of yellgrey and an intresting use of green lighting. The texture style and brushwork make me think of it as a warm version of ether.
Naigel
Very neat!
Jezpuh
Yes, very good usage of yellgrey biggrin-fix.gif
Pharcae
Lovely style you got there, nice job.
HanzGrub3r
"Holy Lego City Batman!"..

It looks really nice - but I can't shake this feeling that I am looking at a lego-block building for some reason...it's really odd.. Nice sharp texture work though...good work
Mad_ivans
QUOTE (HanzGrub3r @ Sep 21 2004, 12:10 PM)
"Holy Lego City Batman!"..

It looks really nice - but I can't shake this feeling that I am looking at a lego-block building for some reason...it's really odd.. Nice sharp texture work though...good work


Nothing wrong with lego however the pure evil is knex and/or in magnetic in nature

(Edward) I think the map is great as it is especially for a combat (cough merchant Bankers) is it that the ready room or the map itself.

Another suggestion is toned down (or right down in some cases Madivans) the green except if it is the readyroom
MarcosLostPW
Thanks for the comments smile-fix.gif

Its the Marine Spawn and a hallway.
Why tune the green down? Anything wrong with it?
Kabelen
Lovely work Marcos, mate.
Hmm.. The green is a bit sharp. Architechture is nice.
Keep it up!
Stavesacre
I think the green is very unique. Dont change it at all. Yel/grey by it self is sorta bland, the green gives it a very creepy feel.
tommyd
pretty slick... is that a blatant pit-o-death in the middle of the MS? tounge.gif
Josemite
normally I hate the yellow wall texture, but this map actually looks good with it. Good job.
Thaldarin
QUOTE (Josemite @ Sep 21 2004, 09:12 PM)
normally I hate the yellow wall texture, but this map actually looks good with it. Good job.

To put it nicely your just sucking up to the author and agreeing with everyone else because your scared to voice your own opinion.

In my opinion the texturing brings out the map, the architechture is rather simple and poor but effective. The lighting is strong and the nicely detailed ceilings taking your eyes away from the mainly plain corridor floors is what, to me, seems to be the main attraction to the map. That and the big funky room with the two wholes in the middle of it.
MarcosLostPW
Ok Thursday-:

First of all, stop flaming others opinions.

Second: I wanted to keep this map in a clean style. If you saw a 3d flat picture from hammer, i think you would be suprised how many brushes i realy added. You say the textures brings out the map? I say theres a mix of clean brushwork details and texturing.

About the plain floor: As i said i wanted to keep things clean. Having unimportant details (extra brushwork) added to the players path would just block the player. I want the map to have a good flow.

I know the big room is kinda boring. Maybe I'll add some details on the walls later. But not too much. As i pointed above, i see no reason to.

Thanks for all the other nice replies smile-fix.gif
DrunkenMonkey
Nice and clean. Looks really sweet.
Best use of those textures I've seen so far.
Thaldarin
QUOTE (MarcosLostPW @ Sep 21 2004, 09:40 PM)
Ok Thursday-:

First of all, stop flaming others opinions.

Second: I wanted to keep this map in a clean style. If you saw a 3d flat picture from hammer, i think you would be suprised how many brushes i realy added. You say the textures brings out the map? I say theres a mix of clean brushwork details and texturing.

About the plain floor: As i said i wanted to keep things clean. Having unimportant details (extra brushwork) added to the players path would just block the player. I want the map to have a good flow.

I know the big room is kinda boring. Maybe I'll add some details on the walls later. But not too much. As i pointed above, i see no reason to.

Thanks for all the other nice replies smile-fix.gif

Yeah, every time I express an honest opinion people take it as flaming. People just get too easily offended, not my problem most of the population lives sheltered lives.
MarcosLostPW
Thanks DM smile-fix.gif

QUOTE
To put it nicely your just sucking up to the author and agreeing with everyone else because your scared to voice your own opinion.


How do you know he was "sucking me up"? Who are you to take this conclution?
Well i belive most ppl would take this as flaming.

Ok, back to the topic. I will say no more about this Thursday-. I hope you can do the same

DarkATi
QUOTE (Thursday- @ Sep 21 2004, 03:49 PM)
QUOTE (MarcosLostPW @ Sep 21 2004, 09:40 PM)
Ok Thursday-:

First of all, stop flaming others opinions.

Second: I wanted to keep this map in a clean style. If you saw a 3d flat picture from hammer, i think you would be suprised how many brushes i realy added. You say the textures brings out the map? I say theres a mix of clean brushwork details and texturing.

About the plain floor: As i said i wanted to keep things clean. Having unimportant details (extra brushwork) added to the players path would just block the player. I want the map to have a good flow.

I know the big room is kinda boring. Maybe I'll add some details on the walls later. But not too much. As i pointed above, i see no reason to.

Thanks for all the other nice replies smile-fix.gif

Yeah, every time I express an honest opinion people take it as flaming. People just get too easily offended, not my problem most of the population lives sheltered lives.

Thursday's in a bad mood today, don't mind him if he seems a little... er.. in-your-face. He does have his own opinion though and I kind of agree.

OK, so for my personal opinion I applaud you for being the first person to boldly use lots of green lights in a map. No one has really done that and I like it. The yellgrey texture set however, I still do not like.

I will not rate this map until I play it as I agree with the author, it is very clean and looks to have good flow from the shots of the hallways, etc. But I do think it has simplistic architecture (a bad thing? maybe...) this could work in favor of it's clean style or just be poorly built.

Like I said, I'll wait 'til I play it. Good Job!

~ DarkATi
TyrNemesis
One thing I will say: Having any trigger_hurt excessively close to marine start is an absolute no-no because people can purchase mines, plant one, and suicide until the end of time using that pit. Before long one of two things will happen: A) Every skulk on the map will hit a mine, or B) The server will crash.

Before you laugh, i'm not kidding. Look at co_daimos with the acid water under marine start; In competetive play, people would suicide in there if they so much as stubbed their toe so they could always be in top shape.

On an unrelated note, this map seems to share my name :~( As such, it better come out good. I will say that I like the futuristic high-contrast look you acheived with the contrasting yellow.

I like your choice to keep the walking path fairly clear while detailing the cielings, but keep in mind when you design the rest of the map that skulks fare very very poorly in wide-open ground. There must be usable cover in some places from which to set up ambushes or get behind marines. Elevation changes can help with this, but don't go crazy. Contrary to popular belief, a few useless vents do not classify as "making the map alien-friendly".

Advice:

O Copy co_ether and put some glass over the pit in MS so you can stand over it and look down into infinity or whatever. This retains the "there is a pit here" effect without attaining the "i can spam mines" effect.

O Given your off-the-wall texturing choice, I think this map would benefit visually from having lots of odd, shiny, spinning things and glowing nanite crap in the walls. These things draw peoples' eyes add cool points to the map.

Keep up the work and don't get discouraged by Thursday, when you finally get your map to the point when he has something nice to say about it, you know you're in business.
Bijiy
Nice I like it, not all maps need complex design to succeed. I mean the TSA had to build at least one "simple" facility. The use of textures is some of the best I've seen so far. Good work.
Insane
QUOTE (DarkATi @ Sep 21 2004, 09:38 PM)
OK, so for my personal opinion I applaud you for being the first person to boldly use lots of green lights in a map. No one has really done that and I like it.

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moultano
I like how clean and polished it looks. I don't like how geometric it looks. The rooms you've shown don't look like they have a function, they look like geometric constructions. Keep the theme, work on the content, and you'll have yourself a winner.
DarkATi
QUOTE (Insane @ Sep 21 2004, 05:14 PM)
QUOTE (DarkATi @ Sep 21 2004, 09:38 PM)
OK, so for my personal opinion I applaud you for being the first person to boldly use lots of green lights in a map. No one has really done that and I like it.

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Made a map with green lights, have you?

~ DarkATi
Recoup
I love this map! Pure sehks!
Belgarion
wonderfully creative. great texture/light use. some have criticized you for both the texturing and lighting, but i think it works really well together. Don't listen to those people. tounge.gif though i do sort of get a 'cartoonish' feeling from it. it seems as though some parts don't really give much of an "NS" atmospheric feeling from it. Maybe that's just me. But it feels too... clean i guess. Too much like ... i don't know. it's hard to convey this feeling. It's as if ... i don't know. Just keep going with it. It looks good anyway.
Grizzly
i dont like the textures, if i had that brushowrk id do some serius overusing of r25_monitorbox, vent2 and the nos texture set

but yes, good work

MarcosLostPW
Thanks all~~
I see theres a split here. But it seems most ppl think the arcitecture is alittle too clean. I'll see what i can do about it. This is only 2 days of work and i havent got to the tweaking parts of anything.

TyrNemesis^: Hehe i get our point there, but this isn't any death'o pit, but an route for the marines to get to the hive smile-fix.gif

I wont say whats the setting of the map yet. But it's "green" biggrin-fix.gif
Mendasp
You're still working on the map! Fantastic!

btw, why don't you ask an admin to help you with your old account problems? >_>
Insane
QUOTE (DarkATi @ Sep 22 2004, 12:24 AM)
Made a map with green lights, have you?

Indeed.

Nice work Marcos. I like the clean style and the good use of textures. smile-fix.gif
MarcosLostPW
Thanks Insane smile-fix.gif

Seems like most ppl hated the textures and design so im redoing it now as i speak
Insane
I liked the textures! Yellgrey is underrated in my opinion.
Belgarion
QUOTE (Insane @ Sep 22 2004, 01:38 PM)
I liked the textures! Yellgrey is underrated in my opinion.

agreed. i think it's harder to use well, which is probably why it's under rated.
Evil_bOb1
QUOTE (MarcosLostPW @ Sep 22 2004, 03:31 PM)
I see theres a split here. But it seems most ppl think the arcitecture is alittle too clean.

I'm sorry to say i entirely disagree. Its just so well put together, that it looks simple, but with a closer look it is quit complicated. I find the style very effective. To me it looks natural... humain... very credible...

I think if you add complexity it'll could lose that feeling. But this is entirely of your choice wink-fix.gif
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