That is so damn stupid. 4 HA dudes near a hive. 1st problem: THERE IS ONE SKULK AND ONE GORGE IN THE HIVE ROOM AND NO ONE THINKS ABOUT ENTERING THE HIVE ROOM (but that is not the problem).
I entered the hive room for some seconds to make the sieges shoot. They shot. Hive was gone. I retreat. Almost dead. Ok, some medpacks and I'm fine. But my armor not. So I go into my mates' group and say "Dudes, someone weld me, plz". No reaction.
Once again. This time with flashlight blinking. No reaction. I take out my welder and begin to weld my mates. No reaction. Well, commander put a TF in the hive room. I wanted to enter (no else did) and build it. Then, I died from one skulk.

Now the question: how to make idiots clear that one needs a welding?

I usually say "Weld me.." in teamsay and pick up my own welder(as you did), most people on public understand that they should weld back..

Those who doesnt probably dont know what the Welder is used for(you could explain to them but somehow it seems to me that most people on public never read what other people write).

manual flashlight blinking or the one-button-push spam kind?

flashlight, jumping up and down, or this thread

I prefer the thread [weld me sprite]


if you think it's a good idea, then say so in that thread!

Would be great if we have weld me icon...

For now... get infront of a mate facing him; use welder on him and spam flash light... If you have voice use it... If not bind a key to tsay "weld me"... If he tries to get pass you; strafe and block him... If he ignores you he is either so annoyed or total noob... Try someone else...

although a bit annoying; It mostly works... I dont recommend doing this (at least the blocking part) if he is an admin... ^_^

Maybe your teammates didn't have a welder?

To make it more clear....make like you're welding them, then drop the welder and yell "Pick up my welder and weld me!"

That usually works.

In this situation, they did have.
Well, I'll try to drop this thing.

hahahaha an HA train with one person with the welder?

usually welding someone (even though they already have full armor) makes them realize to weld u back. when that fails i say "weld me"..then jump around...then flashlight..if not then i say "weld me" in another tone of voice unsuitable to be displayed in these forums.

if u find another person that doesn't have HA u can sometimes drop him the welder and he'll weld u almost all the time..but just do it in deperate situations as most likely u'll lose the welder that way.

otherwise, i think a "please weld me" radio command would be a nice addition.

bind your flashlight to a key that repeats: Like pagedown or pageup. Holding it down makes the flashlight blink REALLY quickly, and is sure to get your attention.

make a bind that does it all in one button:

blinks the flash light
asks in teamsay
plays a weld me recording (you know that program to play sounds...)
jumps up and down / spins around
change your name to WELD ME! for a second

or to get your teams attention recycle the whole base; now whos the boss?

Sad as it is, pretty much everyone who uses voice communication is either too dumb to read the chat, or just chooses to ignore it. So i like many others get screwed and die because people wont bother to see if you need to be welded.

Before you say "omg nube get a microphone!!111" I have a microphone, and it works with everything BUT HL. I've tried everything to fix it, looked for months on all the HL websites, and finally just gave up. Short of buying a new soundcard, I can't use HLs ingame voice comm. Theres no reason to shell out more money just because HL has problems with it, Ive never had problems with ANY other game/program/whatever.

There is absolutely no valid reason why there shouldn't be a weld icon, or a "Need a weld!" voice thing in game.

turn on your mic and spam weld me weld me weld me weld me
if they dun react drop them your welder
if they still dun react omg gg go spectators and watch the show

Teamsay or voicecomm.

If they ignore you...... well thats just unfortunate.


Spamming or being a smacktard will generally result in YOU being punished, and makes you worse than them, so don't do it kthx.

If they don't listen, its time to find a new, better server that has players that will. Don't blame it on voice-chat, not having a mic, team say or what not. Take it upon yourself to play games with players that play the game well.

get your microphone and scream weld into it or something. or go to a pub where there are experienced marines that know when to weld.

Here's a way to get welded.

1) Open up sound recorder.
2) Press Record
3) Say what you want to say that involves asking being welded. (I say "Weld me you n00b!"). Say it as FAST as possible. "weldmeyounoob!"
4) Now, use the voice recording program to deepen the sound (Slows down playback.)
5) Use your new "deep" voice to command attention and get welded. Simply use a playback program or don't use headphones and play it back.

Or just play on Friendly Fire on servers and threaten to kill everyone if they don't get to welding.

Please, don't use the playback program we're all thinking of, because it entices you to use it for very...very...annoying things.

And your second suggestion will result in a ban from that server.

Using voicechat is a nice idea, will try.
But I'll try this without external programs, HL can do it itself.

i have a bind that yells "i need welding!" and flashes the flashlight a few times. it has worked pretty nicely. and if they just stare at u drop them your welder. if that doesnt work either, well... time to find another server.

sometimes, sadly, it's most prudent to escape back to base, via a PG if no one welds you. i know as acomm, i'd rather have the competent rine save that.. 30 or so rez by saving himself and hoping his teammates come to their senses than get killed by a skulk.

Hey how do you make your self like tilt back at really wierd angles? I've seen others do that.

It's very wierd to see a marine who is walking and shooting normally except his model is tilted back 80 degrees. Very odd and gets attention.

Hi there,

Info from another thread that has been locked because...

usually just yell in the mic telling team to weld me or i pull out my welder and click my mouse quickly while turning my flashlight on and off

usually gets the job done

One little tip when faced with noobs that won't weld: be very careful about dropping your welder to make them understand you need welding. In at least 50% of the cases the noob picks up the welder and runs off, never to be seen again.

And I'm all for the "need welding" teamsay and icon thingy.

alias flasher "impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100"

alias weldme "impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;wait;impulse 100;say_team [ATTN: MY ARMOR IS LOW / PLEASE WELD ME / I AM FLASHING TO GET YOUR ATTENTION]"

Works on mp_blockscript servers. Spam it until you get welded. The way I figure, anyone who is enough of a complete figgot to actually use the mute command on a team based game except in dire circumstances and only temporarily is exactly the kind of vindictive little gamer shatface you never want to play a game with. www.pwned.nl uses the mute command. DONT BE HIM. Anyone with some adult patience who is trying to have a fun game and cares about teamplay will eventually see the blinking, jumping, spinning, spamming heavy suit and respond to you. You kill two birds with one stone.

You might even want to start shooting people pointblank in the face, FF or not. You can always count on loud noises and shiny flashes to get a retard's attention. Constantly blocking their path is another thing you can do.

Oh yeah, and if you're low on armor, NEVER HOLD OUT YOUR WELDER. Flashing and ramming a teamsay bind over and over and over and over and over makes your intention clear. On the other hand, holding a welder out is a big sign over your head that says to any skulk in the area "I DO NOT HAVE A GUN CAPABLE OF KILLING YOU IN MY HANDS RIGHT NOW, AND I AM TRYING TO TELL MY TEAM TO WELD ME, WHICH MEANS I AM BOTH LOW ON ARMOR, AND NONE OF MY TEAMMATES WELD ME WITHOUT HAVING TO BE TOLD. IN FACT, THAT PROBABLY MEANS THEY CAN'T EVEN COVER ME FROM SKULKS LIKE YOU. PLEASE MR SKULK, TAKE 3 BITES TO KILL ME IF YOU CAN SPARE THE TIME."

Just keep spamming it, spinning around, jumping, and so forth. If these are REAL newbs we're talking about, then don't throw the welder at them unless you KNOW they already are carrying one. When people pick up a welder or pack of mines, it doesn't autoswitch, so these newbs probably just have absolutely no clue. If you have a working microphone that can actually pick up the different tones of your voice, nothing gets results faster than picking a tone of voice that says "Here I am, been playing NS forever, know what I'm doing, but I'm being forced to play on a public server with you SpEds. It's not your fault that you're a drooling mental reject, so I forgive you, but please, pretend that what I'm asking you to do is important." Sometimes, you just have to shrug your shoulders and do your best to escape from your "teammates" and get back to base in one piece. Jumping into a phasegate is the fastest way to do this, and guarantees that no matter what happens to the idiots left on the other side, you keep your equipment.

This really is a question of ethics. Is it right to leave them? Even if you're the only marine who actually welds? YES. Leave them NOW. Leave them and pray to whatever you believe in that they get killed by two skulk players rushing them over and over. Once the game gets this bad, it's not a game anymore, and the usual ethics of teamwork no longer apply.

Typically, if your commander has the minimum intelligence required to drop welders, he knows more than those other guys. Just stay right at base and don't go anywhere, and take a few minutes to ask the commander to step out of the chair to weld your armor. If those other fools don't understand the value of keeping your armor at 100%, maybe your commander will. Plus, if you make it clear to the COMMANDER that the team isn't welding, he'll do all the work of getting the stupid fcknewbs to listen, and might even hop out of the chair for long enough to weld you up. I can't tell you how often I've just phased back to base and stood there waiting. If my team doesn't cooperate, why play along? Sure, it feels stupid having to run to Daddy Commander and say DAAAD BILLY WON'T WELD ME, but it's the only thing you can do, and it's absolutely the correct thing to do.

Oh yeah and join a clan or ditch NS before you get this spiteful of the pub "community."

Pubs can be fun. It is kinda fun to be one of the guys with the most skill on the server.

Actually this thread reminds me of how annoying people can be when you are commander.

comm jp now (ok **** I don't have an advanced armory or arms labs so shut up)
comm ha-again-for-the-50th-time
comm give me [insert weapon name here and spam like crazy]
comm-i-wanna-hump-the-armory-all-day-and-whine-about-not-having-toys-yet


If you are being a total arse I will ignore you. Screaming little boys wanting their toys makes me want to kick you.

Just be respectful, not getting a weld isn't as bad as starting a trend of rampant spam and screaming to get a weld or toys.

Welding is not skill-based. A trained chimp could do it [edit] better than some teammates I've been forced into having.

Oh yeah, and I just noticed that the topic reads "how to make your MATES weld you."

Was this on an AUS or EUR server? 10 to 1 says it had to be. I'm sorry for you. Domestic servers here in the states typically have SLIGHTLY brainier pubbers. Slightly.

Very slightly.

You're kidding me. Aussie servers and European servers tend to be more idiot-free than servers in the States.

I won games before when I talk some n00bs under my wing. That's what the function of an FC is for. To lead and strategize. The CCC is there to asssist the FC, make the drops, do the research, and coordinate the movements of troops.

I am alwyas nice to n00bs and get really annoyed when other players get violent or mean towards n00bs.

This is especially because when I began playing NS (with version 2.01) I remember very well how overwhelmed I was with information and complexity.


Everyone was using the names of the locations and I was confused at what all of these glowing light things were. (hivesight) I was a lost skulk trying to follow other but they moved so fast through the complex vent and openings in the maps that I would usually loose them. It took a while before I was used enough to the maps that I could find my way arround.

So I asked in general if someone could help me learn how to play and some **** made some inappropiate comment about n00bs i don't remember exactly and I got angry. So I say again.

EVERYONE WAS A FRiKING N00B AT SOME POINT. EVERYONE. SO BE NICE.

I was insulted mostly because I have played HL since inception and had just come over to NS from being an amature-expert in TFC.

Brand new players to NS will have no clue what the hell is going on. If you actually take the time to teach them you might find a big ego boost and some one who will remember.

I still remember who trained me: |s| Goddy

I hope to god NSLearn is a partial success, for the sake of everybody.

There is a website. The website has a manual. The manual is comprehensive and covers everything there is to know about the basics.

Asking the forums for help is the last resort for anyone.

Not R'ingTFM is what defines "willful ignorance."

There is no excuse. You will notice the period. Even a newb playing literally for the first time should be amazed, but not completely lost in the game, BECAUSE THERE IS A COMPREHENSIVE MANUAL DETAILING EVERYTHING A NEW PLAYER NEEDS TO KNOW ON THE SAME WEBSITE HE HAD TO DOWNLOAD THE MOD FROM. HELLO MCFLY HELLO ANYONE HOME UP THERE?

I was a newb too, but I threw myself into learning the game and made my honest mistakes and figured it out by the time 1.04 was over. And frankly if it's been this long and you're still dwelling on the fact that when you were new people called you a newb, someone needs to put you on a couch and analyze you.

I'm going to find that damned thing and link it in my sig.

I gave up playing on EU servers mostly because the lil prickers can be some of the most openly arrogant pub-allstar wannabes to ever carry an english accent. From what I remember of Voogru servers and others in the EU, the players who aren't being obnoxious voicechatting dickjackers with an inflated sense of self-worth are exactly the kind of willfully stupid knownothings that this topic is all about in the first place. That and the mindless flood of gamebreaking admin mods just irritate me so badly that I gave up on them forever. As for AUS servers, from what I hear, they can be just as bad. Cry cry cry, someone dropped a CC in front of the onos B&NT. Sorry, no. I wouldn't even go look at them at this point. Not to mention if I want a lousy gameplay experience because of the players on the server, I don't have to go as far as Australia or Europe to get it. There are plenty of crappy american pubs with the exact same draconian rules, counterproductive admin mods, and braindead players. The least of my demands is a ping below 60.

Why are you even mentioning Texas. The only one I've seen is HK. I live in California. You'll get no love of Texans from me either TBFH. I hate all the little special children equally. But when it comes down to picking a pub, all things being equal as they typically are, I'd rather play on the servers where I get the lowest ping, in the country where NS was born.

I spend all my time playing other games. I'm familiar with NS, but I'd look pretty embarrassed if you actually caught me playing it at this point, and you'd never see me using my name by now. It's enough that I know how the game works. When B5 is out, I'll switch my name back, give it all another whirl, and see if my opinions have changed. Call me.

Yeah its just us texans hate you and don't want to weld you.

Just make a script like i use

bind "key" "say_team [need welding];flashlightimpulse;flashlightimpulse;

Add flashlightimpulse as many times as needed.

Love it as an Onos when I see three or more HA's in a welding Circle Jerk with their backs to me.

By the time they put their welders away and pull out their guns I'm gone with one less HA for them to weld.

Another point of stupidity.