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BloodySloth
After reading through This Thread, specifically the ideas some people had about the Onos impaling marines on it's horn/tusks, I had an idea. Could we not sorta mash together devour and charge?

Here's my idea. The first marine hit by the onos when charging would get stuck on the horn on its head. The marine would take damage over time while impaled, at possibly a much faster rate then devour. When charge ends, or when the onos hits a wall, or maybe gets hit with an explosive, the marine gets tossed off the horn, and is freed.

This would improve charge, get rid of people complaining about the goatse.cx sprite people get to stare at when devoured, and open up a weapon slot for something else. (primal scream perhaps? Then give the Lerk spikes back?)

Comments?
krimson
i suppose this isnt all that bad of an idea. im not a big fan of a few of devours aspects... but i would suppose that if a person was on an onos horn and the onos hit the wall, the marine would simply explode in a nothing short from terrible mess.

BloodySloth
True, but you would think the same of a person using a jetpack flinging into a wall at 90 mph. Maybe the marine would take extra damage when the onos hits a wall too?
AvengerX
devour and charge together? what would they call it? Cevour? Darge?
BloodySloth
Um.. Still charge? Did you actually read my idea? It's taking the effect of devour and adding it onto charge, not somehow combining eating a marine and charging into them at the same time.
NolSinkler
Yeah fast food!!

This sounds like a good idea, IMO.
AlmightyNu
Pretty cool idea, i think actually. I'd like to see it tried out. It would make for a decent hive 3 attack. If we could work out the model of an onos having a marine on its horn, that would be awesome too.
Ripur
i think that would go agaisnt the NS gore rules. It would be funny
BloodySloth
It could easily be done without too much gore at all. Sure there'd be blood, but that wouldn't be new in this game. You could even do it without blood if you wanted to be really conservative.
flintlock
and lets face it, who doesn't want to run around with a screaming marine bleeding all over their face? no, seriously?

i like it, anything to give the lerk its spikes back.

"AHH I'M BEING CEVOURED!"
BloodySloth
mmm... marine kebab.
RobB
QUOTE (NolSinkler @ Aug 21 2004, 10:18 PM)
Yeah fast food!!

This sounds like a good idea, IMO.

LOL!

btw... This idea evoluted somehow from my idea of charge change... and this image shows quite exactly what I meant! (if you take the bloodfactor away... ns isnt scary and gory).

QUOTE ("thealmightynu")
Pretty cool idea, i think actually. I'd like to see it tried out. It would make for a decent hive 3 attack. If we could work out the model of an onos having a marine on its horn, that would be awesome too.
you wouldn't need new models this hard, if you change the existing models this way that they look like hanging on a horn. of course, it could create ugly gaps, but weapons do that, too... (watch the knive's idle animations closely) ~ and nothing is unsolveable.
Da_Scarlet_M
asrifle.gif tiny.gif being able to survive being impaled and then either bashed off or blown off...........man we have tough marines lol
NEO_Phyte
if there is a "no gore" rule, then why is the Oniis main attack called gore??









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m0nk3y
uhh, lets see IF a tusk goes through a marine, how will it live? are these marines really that tough?



ok on hive3 the onos gets to use charge! when the onos charges in he can imaple up to 3 marines. (the onos has to touch marines while charge is on)

however, this charge will be special and most of the damage will be directed to the HEALTH and not the armor! the 3 marines have around 3 seconds before dying of blood loss. uhhhh lets see. oh and if the onos has 3 marines stuck on its horn and tusk it cant use gore.!

THE onos charges into a fortified position and imaples 2 marines. The marines dont even have a chance to think, run or even scream. blood drips down from the marines mouth onto the onos tusk. The 1st marine manages to slash the onos once with a knife before dying of blood loss. the onos thinks the 2nd marine is dead and tosses him off, the dying marine talks into the radio "cc .... *cough*is lost...* cough* *cough*" the marine dies. the comm says to his team " alright we lost computer core, and there is a onos loos out there so watchout"
RaVe
QUOTE (NEO_Phyte @ Aug 22 2004, 02:38 PM)
if there is a "no gore" rule, then why is the Oniis main attack called gore??

r00fles

I think this is a good idea, but like some have said, this sort of conflicts the 'No visual gore' implementation that Flayra had in mind.

Marine blood was a different issue though. Something about hit confirmation.

And no, these marines aren't that tough, but nanites in the future can do almost anything, like stop bleeding by acting as blood clotting fragments for instance wink-fix.gif
Bait_Boy
It could work out
marine.gif O NOES! ONOS CHARGE!11!11!111!1!11!1
asrifle.gif tiny.gif
splat
Ripur
to bad we can't use the exploding body images from half-life. Like when you fell down an elevator and just kinda *pop*ed.
Marine limbs go flying would just be funny
BloodySloth
QUOTE (RaVe @ Aug 22 2004, 02:54 PM)
I think this is a good idea, but like some have said, this sort of conflicts the 'No visual gore' implementation that Flayra had in mind.

True, but is it really worse then seing the inner workings of an onos writhe around you as you suffocate slowly in its stomach?
RobB
QUOTE (BloodySloth @ Aug 23 2004, 03:01 AM)
QUOTE (RaVe @ Aug 22 2004, 02:54 PM)
I think this is a good idea, but like some have said, this sort of conflicts the 'No visual gore' implementation that Flayra had in mind.

True, but is it really worse then seing the inner workings of an onos writhe around you as you suffocate slowly in its stomach?

I don't understand why it is so "gorefull" to see an onos grabing Marines with its horns and ramming them into the wall... You see that everyday in TV... even on Kid's TV... Bullys do that everyday...
Ripur
i was refering to the impaling part of the sharge attack. Slamming a rine into the wall is nothing. having an animation of a rine flailing helplessly while being lifted off the ground, a 3 foot tusk going through his midrif, is a different story
BloodySloth
It's not like it would be in explicit detail. Getting bitten by a skulk would have more "gore" in it than this, all you would see is the horn through the marine. I guess it really boils down on to the devs' definition of gore; I see it as gratuitous blood or dismemberment, like gibbing.
krimson
just put a very large black "CENSORED" block over it when it happens.. that way, animators dont need to worry about doing the animation... =P
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