Hello everyone.

I have recently returned to Natural-Selection, my gameplay as my favoured team (Marines) has increased dramatically with both competance to follow the commanders orders STRAIGHT away, only getting 50|150 ammo for my LMG rather than a full clip (None for the pistol as I don't use it) and my aim/skill with slaying the ever deadly;

I have recently joined a new clan and they are in need of another commander, hsould the first not make it, I have said I am willing too be the 2nd Commander but will need to train.

Now as we all know, a Commander plays about 25% role in the match, the other 25% is the Marines and the 50% is the Aliens who are both killing structures and marines. (This is a true statistic as both teams are even, and both add up to 50%)

It's very hard to command on a public server where many members of the team decide they will go off and rambo, or the people who kind of help you, but don't listen too you. And then of course the excellent marines that we all wish we had that move out all the time capturing res nodes and sneaking PG's around and locking down hives (Definately me)

But anyway, back on track; If anyone knows where there is a detailed 3.0 beta 4a Tech-Tree that you can click icons to find details about etc that would be really handy for me because I could plan my game before the PCW's;

Know how many of us there will be (Able to assign squads before hand)
Know what map will be played (Able to plan a path, and upgrades)
Able too plot my structual and upgrade plan.
Able too plan a backup attack for any situation.

I'd be able too do this with a HTML or something clickable tech-tree.

If anyone can provide me with a link too one, or perhaps make one to help ALL commanders around the glode that would be really handy!
Thankyou (Game details furthur down, not RTR)

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I was just on my first game as a comm before (No one else would and ever map i've been going 'Shall I comm? Nah...' so I did here) since I have returned to NS in the last 3 days, the map was ns_bast (We all know why it's called 'bast')
and we were doing really well, I had a decent team, they didn't dilly-dally around typing or talking, they KNEW what we had too do, I didn't need too tell them to move out, anyway, we'd locked down Engine Room and the hive with water ( I used too know the names of EVERYWHERE on every map before I left NS) and it was going so well, upgrades on the way, phase gates going up all over the show and the Aliens couldn't stop us - And I'm talking... 7 minutes into the game here.

Then it went pear shaped; A rambo idiot joined and had a score of 2/9 in no time, he was spamming for a GL + JP when we didn't have a proto yet (still 7 mins in) and so because I didn't give him one, and he refused too move until I got one, he booted me out of the console (I think someone else did aswell, because I accidentally neglected their ammo pleas while locking down a hive). Anyway, safe too say he hopped in the chair, got a proto lab, got JP's, dumped a set down for himself, hopped out and rambo'd away.

I just quit after that, thats why I can't stand public games. In PCW's people understand that you need your res for the hive you are locking down or too acctually PLAN your steps, and they don't rambo either, they follow orders because it may just be me, but without a tag, they are drones, with a tag, they are valuable members of any team, public or private.

This is a true statistic on my behalf that I have seen, anyone without a tag just drifts along, but the same person may have a tag the next day and play like an Average+ and be a credit too your team.

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This is true, but that tag thing isn't always true.

Maybe you should start playing some gathers or some pugs (Depending on where you're from) They're just like clan games but without the clan. Skill level in them varies but the people who join in are genrally the people that have the same problems as you, and are wanting to play in a team.

I forget the PUG channel name, but if you're from euro, come down to #ns.gather on quakenet, and type !add to get into a game, they're much better then public play.

you can goto #nslearn on gamesurge.net for additional assistance on whatever you need.

I'm so sorry Lito, let' me appologise for not realising there is a earch function on a FORUM you know, also the fac tthat it's my first post may ave had something too do with it.

As for the LMG ammo, If you are laughing at the fact that I DONT get a full clip then i'm glad. it just doesn't make me an armoury humper.

If the commander has smart base placement, I usually hump twice before I go out.

^ likewise. im usually able to dodge a few bites and manage to kill a lone skulk but itll take 25-50 bullets. bind "x" "impulse 11" is your friend.

and always if theres any kind of rush going on, dont take ammo. dont even look at the armory (unless u happen to get a shotty, then you'll be allowed to hump for a few clips).

Going back to answer your question,
there are plenty of commander guides on this forum alone; no real need to go al fancy with interfaces. If that does not interest you,

Official manual
http://www.natural-selection.org/manual_ve...ual_Framed.html

Best HTML manual I've seen, but unfinished
http://members.optushome.com.au/sektor/nscommand/index.htm
(Creds |C9|Agent)

Discussion of above manual: (And long post of fixes of mine which was ignored. )
http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...topic=71536&hl=

HTH
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Finally, at 7 mins, you should have had an armslab, if not armour1 too.

And pistol > lmg. Seriously, consider using it as your primary weapon. You typically see skulks at long range anyway.

See skulk
Pistol a few shots (3 shots, out of a 10 shot magazine, leaves the skulk critical)
Finish off with lmg
If it's still not dead (shame!), knife!

3 Knife swipes, 4? pistol shots, or 8 lmg shots kill a skulk.
(Not too sure on pistol there. 20 damage a shot, and it depends on hives too, but about 4 shots.)

If you can shoot the rat bastard :O

lols. That post squeels with skulk-hatred.
Sense 9+!


And how is that not filtered... :S

pistol does double the lmg per shot. LMG = 10, pistol = 20. So 5 shots is a dead skulk. Technically you should be able to take down 5 (lmg) + 2 (pistol) skulks and get a skulk down to 40 hp with the remaining 5 bullets on your lmg, in which you would need 2 slashes to kill :o

^^
Hehe, as the quote goes:

"8 kills in a row; in Quake 3, it's Godlike, in Ut, it's Ultra Kill, in NS, it's kicked by console"


(I botched that, but the comedy still works. )

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The pistol does damage independant of lmg doesn't it? As weapon upgrades effect it differnently. Correct if wrong.

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5*20 = 100, yet skulk hp is 70 10. 10 armour = 10 hp at hive 1, so 80 damage needed...
Shouldn't 4 shots then kill?
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EDIT: Yeah, I just play the game. The maths doesn't really interest me either.

The info was taken from http://www.cri-hacks.com/damage/index.php

whatever that damage sim says is generally accepted in the community.

5 pistol shots will kill a skulk. 9 lmg bullets will kill a skulk. You're MUCH more likely to get the 5 shot pistol kill. The lmg's cone of fire is large enough that the 9 bullet kill is nearly impossible without having the skulk already nibbling on your toes. Good aim will usually kill a skulk in 15-20 lmg bullets.