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Zamma
fade.gif What do you feel is the best class and please explain why. What do you feel is the best class and please explain why. What do you feel is the best class and please explain why.:


Anyway: Mines has to be the F|A|D|E. Although not my fave alien its the best to me. Its complete in everyway. fade.gif

It has a HARSH close combat attack. It has a nice long range SPLASH attack. It has a getaway attack and even a HEALING ATTACK!
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It can conquer any marine.

Tactics:

1) for normal marines - Blink, Swipe, Blink, Meta, Finish

2) for Jetpacker marines - Blink Swipe, Blink away, Meta, Blink Swipe ect.

3) for HA marines - I) Acid Rocket all there Armour down or to weaken their health, Blink in, Slash, Blink out Meta repeat over.

II) Blink in, Swipe, Blink out, Blink in, Swipe, Blink out repeat.


Good choice of Upgrades: Fades generally SHOULD have:

I) Redemption
II) Adrenlin
III) Focus, SOF, or cloacking


In CO my personal faves include:

I) Redemption, Regen, Carapace = Healing redeeming 250 armoured fade XD
II) Adrenlin, Silence (maybe celerity)
III) SOF


More Info:

Many of you think why SOF?

Well its a great thing with a fade. Especially when all you want to do is pwn frag. Useing the great tactic of blinking and blink swiping you can easily see where they are ZOOM in and swipe then when satisfied ZOOM out. But if still alive you can see him.


Also when waiting for regen to heal u. If one is sneaking up he can be seen and you can run.


Please post your comments and bests.
Scribbles
Redemption?
God_Killer
Oh yeah remption rocks with regen and carapace in combat for any alien, but in classic it sucks.

My fav! Ok...

Against Jp its the lerk with focus and celerity, or focus leap skulk.
Against Ha, its onos, duh.
Against turret farms, bile bomb gorge with a mc or 2 beside me.

But in general, I like the fade a lot. Fast, strong, resonable hp, and skill demanding.
Skulk is great if marines don't get Gl, if they do, they asked for it...no more mr nice skulk.

Every aliens rocks in my book.
Lito
Acid rocket is a joke. And Celerity is the best upgrade for a fade. hands down.
DragonMech
lerk.gif Lerkzor! lerk.gif

I love to just make a myself as big of a pain in the arse as possible with a lerk. It may not seem like it, but sporespamming is a skill against good marines.
Hobojoe
QUOTE (Lito @ Jul 19 2004, 10:18 PM)
Acid rocket is a joke. And Celerity is the best upgrade for a fade. hands down.

except for adren
john_sheu
QUOTE (Hobojoe @ Jul 19 2004, 10:31 PM)
QUOTE (Lito @ Jul 19 2004, 10:18 PM)
Acid rocket is a joke.  And Celerity is the best upgrade for a fade. hands down.

except for adren

Why adren? Only reason why I'd see a fade in need of adren is if he can't blink right and he wastes his energy. Plus since you blink faster you don't need to blink as much.
God_Killer
Hands down celerity beats adrenaline for fade. I never ever take adrenaline for fade, even in combat.

Metabolise does so much more in good hands than the weak adrenaline...anyway thats why ns classes are customisable to anyones taste/skill.
Zamma
What do u mean fade clerety:


Adrenlin is like soo much energy for blink who needs to walk just BLINK!
Scotteh
celerity, aim high, travel for hundreds of metres if terrain allows it, if not bunnyhop + celerity biggrin.gif again if you are skilled enough, blink > meta > blink, lose next to no adrenaline which makes getting adrenaline pointless....
CrS
skulk.gif

Skulk is the best overall alien.
(cara, silence, sof)
Skulkinator
I like the Skulk, simply because of leap and wall-walking, but...

The Gorge is the best in my book. biggrin.gif There's nothing like bilebombing a turret farm, or killing a marine with spitgun/healspray. In terms of usefulness: you can't win without a Gorge. Building is important, but it's always great to have a healspraying Gorge if you're an Onos on the assault.
cortex
My fav alien would definitely have to be fade, since my skulk skills are absolutely appalling..

redemption as a fade (for me) just counters the whole point of a fade.

imho fades are there not as big hitters but as the ultimate hit and run machine. blinkking away > redemption. Redemption is close to useless even in combat. a fade with 5+ upgrades has no real reason to die if he/she is smart and skilled enough... confused.gif
Schimmel
best in my book: lerk.gif

but just for co, focus + celerity owns
Hobojoe
except some of the best fades in the game take adren, you can blink and slash constantly and always meta for health. with celerity there's annoying slowdowns before you have enough adren to meta.
cortex
yet when i spec the "good" fades they seem to use a ridiculous amount of energy blinking usually more than half their energy bar :S
Cypher
celerity is more fun...adren is better if you want to win imo, it can save you in certain moments alot more than celerity can
Schimmel
nah, adrenalin is only good to pursiut JetPackers and get them out of the air.
AlmightyNu
Skulk, all the way skulk.gif
Fear the sneak attack asrifle.gif tiny.gif
head bitey!
Xenix
i can NEVER decide which aliend is my favorite.

skulk - sneak attacks are 1337

gorge - fun to kill a marine whos trying to knife you

lerk - flying is 1337

fade - looks 1337, and being a stealthy fade is fun... allthough i dont like the way they made him look in game. i like the drawling of him.

onos - im hungry. nuff said

im working on mastering all classes
God_Killer
QUOTE
except some of the best fades in the game take adren, you can blink and slash constantly and always meta for health. with celerity there's annoying slowdowns before you have enough adren to meta.


Practice, practice...my energy goes to zero about twice a mount, unless I don't have meta.
xKrazYx
Focus Lerk. I have gone 105-10 in CO games with them, they are INSANE if you're good with them, like me biggrin.gif

In NS : Regen, Adrenaline, Focus
CO : Regen, Cara, Adren, Celerity, Focus, SoF

With Focus, I can take down ANY rine 1v1, even heavies with SG or HMG, IF there's a lot of room to maneuver. In those *fall games, I go nuts with Focus Lerk.

In NS, I'm still good with them but my scores are usually around the middle unless we get third hive, or Sense first. Focus will take 2 hits to kill a rine without Armor 3. Combined with the Lerk's fast "get away" ability, which I think is as good as Blink, and its a **** to deal with if you're rine. Fly in, bite, fly out, fly in, bite, fly out, get +res, hear a lot of swearing directed at you, rinse, repeat =)
Kid-A
QUOTE (CrS @ Jul 20 2004, 07:38 AM)
skulk.gif

Skulk is the best overall alien.
(cara, silence, sof)

Amen. By best I mean most fun. There is something scary about silent leap, it's just mean.

As for Fade debate: Adren, Regen.

Sure you have meta but you need to run away. With adren and regen you can blink around forever in a large area. Marines can't hit you enough to cause damage faster than regen heals it.

Blink around until their reloading. FUN FUN FUN!
ekent
If you can't blink around forever with celerity you're doing something wrong. Plus there's the fact that you can tap it and blink instantly across any room. Celerity makes fades actually usable vs decent shotguns. Although... 2 hive carapace really does the same.
kabuum
I like lerk. I am pretty clumsy with fade. Too many functions to complete..
Lerk is easy to use in beginning to kill marines with gas attack. And it can take the enemy down without beeing in centre of the action..
Otherwise, noob me is gorge ^^ I like to surround the enemy with ocs secured with dcs. And I am usually the first one to build a hive and I have taken the enemy base down mostly being gorge... Just fil the area with offenses and heal them and build dcs...
CaM
I honestly cannot pick a favorite alien class, each of them are good in their on special way depending on what your trying to achieve.
Bait_Boy
I like playing lerk the most, its kinda sorta like a n00b fade (Both can cover long distances quickly) and I have a tad of trouble when I fade, other than everyone calling me a friggin n00b, just because I can friggin blink-swipe mad.gif
zephiK
depends on the map i play
i usally go fade sometimes lerk.
999Hydralisk
My favorite class is the gorge. I can heal eat and watch tv waiting for 2 more res to drop a res node.
Zathril
skulk.gif pudgy.gif or lerk.gif
DMoDblackwolf
gorge for me as well as being the hive makers and chamber makers helpping other alians out haveing 1 in combat makes things better somehow
TheRedComet
gorge for me too , requires thinking and stratagy rather then reflexes as the fatties don't fight well tounge.gif
Firedrop
ive been using fade since the game came out, its all i ever play other than gorge (i never play as marines lol) and id have to say the fade's best upgrades are adrenaline, carapace, and focus =P if you can blink properly you can blink into people and take them out with a hit or two with a focused swipe, then blink away and metab. it allows for an easy getaway and your energy rarely runs out in heavy fights fade.gif fade.gif
gorge is my 2nd favorite, for that id get carapace, celerity, and cloaking pudgy.gif
Lito
If you liked aldrenaline, you probably haven't tried celerity yet. After you've had celerity, theres no going back. Besides, with 2 hives, Metabolize is like a manual aldrenaline upgrade, but no ability really mimics the advantages of celerity.

QUOTE (TheRedComet)

gorge for me too , requires thinking and stratagy rather then reflexes as the fatties don't fight well
.

Sounds like a permagorger to me :/. Permagorges = lews.
TheRedComet


QUOTE
Sounds like a permagorger to me :/. Permagorges = lews.

i'm a half decent with a fade and pretty adapt with an onos too , just i have resepct for the piggy as it's roles vary from sniper (yup spit kills and it does alot ,mainly when there's no armor upgrades involved) , builder (obvious part >_>) and ambusher (web spam an corner and spit the rine to death or at least let a nearby skulk\fade take him), i've yet to find a class with so many uses.
Unknown
I'm a pretty good everything, except for onos. I haven't played in awhile though and its hard playing anything that needs crouching on a laptop. confused.gif I would have to say that my best class is the Fade though... Usually go 50+ kills with about 5 deaths (most deaths are from skulk) in combat. Lerk is my best class in classic though. I don't usually feel confindent enough to Fade in classic cause I'm usually saving my res for gorging.
kiddiegrinder
tbh i dont really have a FAVOURITE class but i do enjoy the simple fun of a tiny.gif smile.gif
Commander_JAG
lerk.gif =my favorite.

NS=Adren-Cara-SoF
CO=cara-celerity-regen-adren-SoF-Silence in that order
TheAdj
I lerk all day as aliens. Anyone that pubs with me can attest to the fear that is the celerity/cara lerk.
Bait_Boy
Yes the best kind of lerk, though flying with celerity when youve been an adren lerk takes a little getting used to
Roth_Child
CO= skulk Celerity/Silence <depending on map and Marines> 3rd hive ability- then onos or SUPER skulk

Hmmm.. a silent tank charging marines.
"frank did you hear that? " tiny.gif GULP
"hear what John? JOHN? where are you"

NS= Gorge Regen/ Adren? Cloak<or>SoF -- OC/DC farms (takes out JPers with out webbing) lol
then tiny.gif Celerity/ Regen/ SoF for the turret.gif farmers
NolSinkler
Skulk, gorge, lerk, onos fade (in that order, from favorite to least favorite).

Even though I don't like the fade that much, It's still my best alien, so I'm stuck as him half the time wink.gif .

But, a lot of times I will own as lerk...

And skulk... biggrin.gif I love the skulk...even though it needs 10 more armor.

Gorge would be my favorite if spit was stronger, and it had a faster base speed...
kolokol
I have to say that adren is a deathtrap for fades. So you can blink constantly, unfortunetly anyone who can aim their boomstick will kill you because fade without celerity is too slow. As for my fav alien its definetly fade...hes such a trooper biggrin.gif
tuemmykids
Fade with Carapace / Celerity / Focus.
Sky
Battlegorging is fun if aliens are winning. Web + spit until they die, or until they run away. That's even better, chasing them as a gorgy biggrin.gif
NukeAJS
QUOTE (Hobojoe @ Jul 20 2004, 11:12 AM)
except some of the best fades in the game take adren, you can blink and slash constantly and always meta for health. with celerity there's annoying slowdowns before you have enough adren to meta.

That some of the best fades taking adrenline might be true but I don't see why any fade would take adreneline over speed (meaning you get hit less). It's fairly easy to get used to metaing when you blink out or even while inbetween acquiring new targets.

Three blinks should get you far away from danger and with celerity three blinks takes less than 25% of my adrenline bar; in addition to taking less damage because you blink around faster. I've only found adrenline useful for not have SoF and taking out structures. Since you are constantly attacking it'll take about 30 seconds to get a low adrenline bar. If some punk marine comes around the corner with a shotty you are in trouble. Adrenline counters this nicely.

Point is that meta > adrenline. Meta + adrenline is overkill.
weggy
Ive played both Adren and Celerity Fades quite a bit. Honestly, both are good!

Celerity is good when you think you're going to be mostly anti-marine. The speed is invaluable.

Adrenaline is good when you think you're going to be mostly killing buildings. The way I play a Fade is blinking past Marine chokepoints, and constantly destroying RTs. When all their RTs are destroyed, I start taking out chokepoints. Since im mostly hacking away at buildings, Adrenaline is my upgrade of choice usually in Classic.

In Combat, I usually get both (along with Silence, Regen, Cara, and Meta), but Celerity comes first since im fighting marines.
Kenichi-SNK
Beta has screwed things all over the place and since there are too strong abilities these days, onoses can be taken down by a single soldier with pistol if hes lucky.

Its obvious that due to the unbalanced power of certain abilities, that Fades are the best class. They need to reduce blink speed drasticly!!!!!!
kolokol
Tbh if they have celerity then that should make it dam hard to hit them, you have enough of a chance when they land next to you for a swipe, 2 shottys and bb fade. Adren fades move slow enough for you to track them. Beleive me there are people out there who find aiming at fades no problem. One thing aliens do lack however is something to get close to marines in a confined space, eg that corridor outside of AE35. Fades cannot touch them due to the small space and single appraoch. Id say fades are fine, but do bare in mind the amount of skill you need to use them effectively. In short go to co and practice your aim till you can pick off skulks with the shotty like nothing.
Btw your problem may be that you dont know how to aim the shotgun, the pellets atually go above and to the left of the crosshair, useing the crosshair will ensure your shots miss.
degamer106
Fades are great..they're basically the whole team in almost any game..
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