Obst
Oct 10 2004, 04:54 PM
If I ain't wrong you are the one that should be thankful for having someone meshing your stuff...
Lt_Gravity
Oct 11 2004, 06:28 AM
anybody should be thankful

*waits for box-skin*
Lt_Gravity
Oct 13 2004, 08:16 AM
1. I hope obst can finish the mesh soon. it seems kinda hard to skinmesh it because of some complex geometry.
2. some people dont seem to visit forums regularly, therefore not ready their PMs:
- no reply from mirrodin regarding the box
- no reply from enforcer regarding the mining vehicle
3. I wanted to feature some finished models within the beta of ns_source but all I have is the pipe and the clamp. better than nothing but... dont know. I was shure people would help me when they saw the goal, dont make me think I was wrong!
4. I want to thank the people taking part in this project anyways.
I not gave up hope yet!!!
Obst
Oct 13 2004, 12:16 PM
I got exams/PE/driving lessons + stuff the whole week, but I think I will finish the mesh for the Mining Vehicle soon...
Mr_Headcrab
Oct 13 2004, 01:15 PM
I'm unemployed, im out of school, and i have insane amouts of time to kill, finish the mesh and i'll skin her for ya
Obst
Oct 13 2004, 04:12 PM
On some of the first pages Gravi states what he wants it to look like

Model attached:
Lt_Gravity
Oct 16 2004, 02:32 PM
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Perdition
Oct 16 2004, 05:38 PM
So, like...if I try to skin this, or if I get someone else to skin this, when can I expect my stardestroyer by?
Also, I need to know what kind of material it should be. Plastic, metal, any little details you want, etc.
Lt_Gravity
Oct 16 2004, 05:56 PM
| QUOTE (Lt.Gravity) |
but the infestation started HERE! why do you think the map is called ns_source
maybe later on you could add some scriptiong on the boxes like:
".357 cal (or whatever caliber is used in the ns universe, never thought about that, 12G for sg, 30mm for granadelauncher) full metal jacket (explosive, etc.) 5000 rounds (depending on ammo size)"
alternations boxes with scripting "armory", "infantry teleporter"
"field rations 200 portions"
"first aid" (either with the esculap-symbol or as a complete white box)
"field computer system (any number) HANDLE WITH CARE/do not throw"
maybe a small "upside /\" signs abouve the handle.
that are only some ideas, Im shure you will create something cool. for an first try one basic skin will be more than enough, we can talk about details later. |
there should be also a small picture in the zip, discribing how the box should look.
the box should be out of metal, edges scratched so you can see the metal under the tsa-paint. feel free to add some own ideas.
btw: what I dont like are people that tell you things like "will be done tomorrow maybe I will work on another model, too." and then seem to disapear. you should, at least, tell me if you dont have time/dont want to do it. so I dont have to rely on you. Im not waiting 4 weeks for any models anymore.
Perdition
Oct 16 2004, 05:59 PM
| QUOTE (Lt.Gravity @ Oct 16 2004, 12:56 PM) |
| QUOTE (Lt.Gravity) | but the infestation started HERE! why do you think the map is called ns_source
maybe later on you could add some scriptiong on the boxes like:
".357 cal (or whatever caliber is used in the ns universe, never thought about that, 12G for sg, 30mm for granadelauncher) full metal jacket (explosive, etc.) 5000 rounds (depending on ammo size)"
alternations boxes with scripting "armory", "infantry teleporter"
"field rations 200 portions"
"first aid" (either with the esculap-symbol or as a complete white box)
"field computer system (any number) HANDLE WITH CARE/do not throw"
maybe a small "upside /\" signs abouve the handle.
that are only some ideas, Im shure you will create something cool. for an first try one basic skin will be more than enough, we can talk about details later. |
there should be also a small picture in the zip, discribing how the box should look. the box should be out of metal, edges scratched so you can see the metal under the tsa-paint. feel free to add some own ideas.
btw: what I dont like are people that tell you things like "will be done tomorrow maybe I will work on another model, too." and then seem to disapear. you should, at least, tell me if you dont have time/dont want to do it. so I dont have to rely on you. Im not waiting 4 weeks for any models anymore.
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I'll let you know now then, I'm not very good at skinning, and I need practice. I do plan on working on this today for sure, and I probably will finish it. But when It is complete, I don't want you to expect anything amazing.
Obst
Oct 16 2004, 07:25 PM
Hooray I'm sober enough to finish the mesh...
RAWR!!!
Perdition
Oct 16 2004, 07:38 PM
What do you say to a rather beat up looking box? I think it'd look pretty neat, and ive got a new idea for a pretty nice rust texture i'd like to try.
Obst
Oct 16 2004, 07:46 PM
Gravi just went to watch TV, but I think I know what he would say:
"JUST GET ME SOMETHING THAT WORKS NO MATTER WHAT IT IS LIKE!!!!!!"
Or such.
So just keep on experimenting. Perhaps you should save the several stages of skinning so he has a little variety to choose from
Perdition
Oct 16 2004, 08:34 PM
Well, here is the start of it. I know it sucks, really hard. But it's a start, I guess.
Anyway, I am by no means finished with the main body. I have to add the outline for the spot where it opens (as drawn in that wonderfal paint picktar) and add a few scratches here and there. I also need to make the text blend a bit better with the box itself. Anyway, feedback?
*edit* Sorry if the rust is a bit much.
*edit2* Updated picture.
*edit3* I also need a lightsource for the skin, but i dont know what direction light will be hitting it in the map.
Obst
Oct 17 2004, 12:11 AM
b00m
2 512x512 + 1 128x128
Obst
Oct 17 2004, 12:12 AM
.mdl bbqkthxbai
Obst
Oct 17 2004, 12:14 AM
Mesh preview (I know it sux, I'm tired):
Perdition
Oct 17 2004, 01:16 AM
Yay for obst!
Lt_Gravity
Oct 17 2004, 12:41 PM
JUST GET ME SOMETHING THAT WORKS NO MATTER WHAT IT IS LIKE!!!!!!
we can talk about details later (texture to lowpoly, lights will hit from top in a 45° angle)
obst: Im your gorge
Perdition
Oct 17 2004, 08:38 PM
Here is the skin before I apply it to the model, I think it looks fine here, it just turns to poo as soon as I apply it...
*note* This is the Jpeg! =
*edit* A large portion of that rust is not seen on the model, so dont worry too much.
Lt_Gravity
Oct 18 2004, 04:21 PM
I dont need rust. we dont want to see rust. maybe the boxes are made from aluminium, ever seen rust on this material?
the_x5
Oct 18 2004, 08:37 PM
| QUOTE (Lt.Gravity @ Oct 18 2004, 11:21 AM) |
I dont need rust. we dont want to see rust. maybe the boxes are made from aluminium, ever seen rust on this material? |
Yes. Aluminum does rust actually, but it's oxide (aluminum oxide) is almost as hard and durable as carbon tetrahedral crystal (diamond). Thus this rapidly forming layer of Aluminum oxide only a few microns thick is enough to stop further oxidization.
Aluminum is actually more reactive than iron. Mercury can be used to act as a catalyst which prevent the formation of aluminum oxide thus allowing the aluminum to rust. Infact it rusts much, much faster than iron does, thus why mercury is illegal on airplanes. (it would destroy them) I have heard a story how US Paratroopers had a plan to put mercury paste on Nazi planes to cause them to rust and fall apart in flight. Regardless of whether or not this rumor is true it would have worked. Also I suggest reading up on thermite for more examples of how reactive aluminum really is and also read how much energy is required in it's production. (has to be made via electrolysis near powerplants)
My stockclass paintball gun, the Phantom, is custom anodized. It has an artifically forced extra thick and colored layer of aluminum oxide on it which makes it remarkably more durable than any paint. (not to mention the deep red and black just looks totally awesome)
PS: In the future be careful talking about Chemistry in front of me unless you enjoy getting ripped.
Perdition
Oct 18 2004, 09:03 PM
Anyway, ignoring the chemistry talk about oxides and whatnot, i've decided to restart on this here skin. I think i've found an answer to my problem about texture resolution, and im not going to add (as much) damage to the box.
*edit* AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I'm a hair away from giving up. No matter what I try, the texture is lower than hell when it comes to quality. The texture reminds me of communism, looks great on paper but sucks when it's actually applied.
Obst
Oct 18 2004, 10:18 PM
Try this, it's a higher resolution mesh
Perdition
Oct 18 2004, 10:43 PM
Thanks!
It looks much better.
Obst
Oct 18 2004, 11:45 PM
But at the same time it quadrifies the model's size
It's up to Gravi to decide whether to take the high- or low-res version.
the_x5
Oct 19 2004, 12:20 AM
Um are we sure about the numbers? Better ask UZi but I think the HMG for instance has a 12mm diameter barrel bore size.

~edit~
Do these boxes have to be grainy green. I mean aluminum oxide is shiny liek and can be oxidized with many pigments:


So remember many of these frontiersmen may have custom anodized stuff and also that and extra thick coat almunium oxide (via anodizing) mean you'll have a more durable surface. And also for you skinners that aluminum structures will have a glossiness to them.
Perdition
Oct 19 2004, 12:24 AM
I started over again, the botchy green wasnt liked. I can't do anything good, so im just doing brushed metal with the same stuff on top of it.
Crispy
Oct 19 2004, 01:45 PM
The blotchy green made me look like the smiley heading this post...
Perdition
Oct 19 2004, 08:27 PM
Okay, so I accidentally deleted what I was working on, i've decided not to continue work on this, I might try again once i've learned a few more tricks.
Someone else can do it.
Lt_Gravity
Oct 20 2004, 06:21 AM
or maybe boxes are made of carbo. then what?

I removed the box from the map for the first version.
I will do the skin myself if everybody acts like its this hard to get a decent skin. I will learn it by myself. jesus, "if you want something done, do it yourself!" becomes true, AGAIN! thx anyway.
Clashen
Oct 20 2004, 05:48 PM
i whooped up some crap, couldnt be arsed to read your instructions or anything. Jsut tell me if you want it.
Obst
Oct 20 2004, 06:01 PM
Yes, he wants it.
Lt_Gravity
Oct 20 2004, 06:01 PM
*faints*
KICKS ****!!! WANNAHAVE!
but why is the inner handle black?
Clashen
Oct 20 2004, 08:25 PM
| QUOTE (Lt.Gravity @ Oct 20 2004, 08:01 PM) |
*faints*
KICKS ****!!! WANNAHAVE!
but why is the inner handle black? |
It's not.
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Obst
Oct 20 2004, 09:13 PM
Nice

Gravi will wub you!
Lt_Gravity
Oct 21 2004, 06:10 AM
perfect. all I need now is
A: skin for vehicle (important!)
B: mesh and skin for dropship (can take its time)
to say something to the dropship: it will be used within the rr. maybe I will add a little surprise ^^
Obst
Oct 23 2004, 11:46 AM
Before Gravi commits suicide, here a WIP pic of the dropship mesh:
Lt_Gravity
Oct 24 2004, 07:53 AM
nice as usual ^^
Obst
Oct 24 2004, 06:22 PM
Ship Meshed!
Download mdl:
Lt_Gravity
Oct 24 2004, 06:24 PM
anybody out of work and willing to skin the last 2 models? (mining vehicle, shuttle)
Obst
Oct 24 2004, 06:24 PM
Obst
Oct 24 2004, 06:25 PM
Mesh preview (suxy FTW!!!)
Lt_Gravity
Oct 31 2004, 12:35 PM
dont be shy, anybody give it a try please
StarStarGrizzly
Nov 2 2004, 12:54 PM
Ill take a look after im done some school projects
Lt_Gravity
Nov 2 2004, 06:34 PM
thank you. to create models is one thing, to create meshes and skins is something I CANT help so I have to rely on you all ^^
StarStarGrizzly
Nov 2 2004, 10:53 PM
ship zip broke

nvm i can open it with rar
Obst
Nov 2 2004, 10:55 PM
Meh?
btw, update your WinRAR

:EDIT: ... :EDIT:
DeltaSnipe
Nov 2 2004, 11:19 PM
I'll see if I can work out the dropship, (That is whats meshed isnt it? That obst just posted) Anyways, I do have a bad work habbit, so I wouldnt count on me.. Honestly.
Obst
Nov 2 2004, 11:26 PM
Yes, the most recent one is the dropship. Some pages before you might also find the mining vehicle.
tbh having the mining vehicle skinned would be MUCH better than the dropship, as the dropship is a *beep* and the mining vehicle is *beep* (Sorry, don't know if I can spill out Grav's "secrets" [No, not the underwear. Pervs.])
Anyway, ANY help is appreciate, so take whatever you wish
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