DragonEternal
May 14 2004, 09:50 PM
Alright, First off - over the summer i plan to get aquainted with making my own models and possibly my own pack, my first idea was a 'tools' pack. I got the idea for this concept one day in one of my boring classes... take a look

the wonderous.... screw driver. Decievingly innocent until its embeded into a poor skulk. (Omg H4x he killed me with a screwdriver lmao) Welcome to C&C
Opinions?
MalambisBZ
May 14 2004, 09:55 PM
Doesn't really need a concept picture, i'm sure everyone knows what a screw driver looks like.
DragonEternal
May 14 2004, 09:57 PM
Eh.. true but their are those... Nevermind. I included a picture for those visual people out there. And the fact that it is a concept and people want to know the picture in my head

Oh and it will come in phillips and flat head versions... and several colors! ;P
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Nikon
May 14 2004, 10:32 PM
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm................ popsicles
Diablus
May 14 2004, 10:43 PM
some of these concepts just get more pathetic as time goes on.
To be honest I dont why people find anything useful or funny like replacing a knife with a screwdriver or a grenade launcher as a gamecube system.
but i play Ns in a serious way so im guessing my point of view is limited on these types of subjects.
DragonEternal
May 14 2004, 10:45 PM
| QUOTE |
| some of these concepts just get more pathetic as time goes on. |
I resent that. In my view it is creative thinking. who would think of killing monsterous alien species with a simple tool? I think its bloody brilliant to those of twisted minds...
Diablus
May 14 2004, 11:27 PM
| QUOTE |
| bloody brilliant to those of twisted minds... |
ah, well that explains it

, Carry on then knifing Space aliens with everyday tools
AnarkiThreeXSix
May 15 2004, 12:10 AM
olo , someone did suggest a TOOL pack , rat made a nailgun for lmg , would be neat
DragonEternal
May 15 2004, 12:15 AM
Maybe we should get soem peeps together after the mario conversion pack is semi-done.
knife = screwdriver
pistol = staple gun
lmg = nail gun
hmg =

(chainsaw with loose teeth that fly off?)
shotgun =

Gl =

(hammer shooting machine?)
Strabismo
May 15 2004, 12:53 AM
Watch out skulks, gorges and even onos! It's comming, it's the.....
...ADVANCED SCREWDRIVER!

dun dun duuuuuuuuuun!
Mintman
May 15 2004, 01:35 AM
A bit like this 240 poly beast?
Mintman
May 15 2004, 01:36 AM
3DS file for my quick hack.
Ratonetwothreetwoone
May 15 2004, 05:34 AM
uh oh looks like were headed into a tool phase
MalambisBZ
May 15 2004, 05:51 AM
| QUOTE (DragonEternal @ May 14 2004, 05:15 PM) |
Gl = (hammer shooting machine?) |
Haha! Exploding hammers, brilliant!
panda_de_malheureux
May 15 2004, 11:50 AM
This isn't "the janitor vs the aliens," make the screwdriver look more futeristic, and that TSA-blue scheme we all love.
xKORExslim
May 15 2004, 12:31 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of Chainsaw knife.
DragonEternal
May 15 2004, 12:47 PM
| QUOTE (version91x @ May 15 2004, 06:50 AM) |
| This isn't "the janitor vs the aliens," make the screwdriver look more futeristic, and that TSA-blue scheme we all love. |
Lol. Their will be many diffrent tool knives to choose from. (hopefully) and for those die ahrd marine fans we have to have the worn out tsa screwdriver of course

. as for the rest of us (and myself) id like my fashonable color screw drivers

. Oh and that chainsaw idea is good but with the speed of the knife slash it would look really weird
Ratonetwothreetwoone
May 15 2004, 01:30 PM
u would just need diff anims like the chainsaw turning on and moving around abit while you hold down the mouse, and you could make an idle sound like... an idling chainsaw...
DragonEternal
May 15 2004, 01:35 PM
Mintman, if you add a bit (like another couple hundred more pollies) more detail that is exactly what i want. except for the fact that the metal part is too short
Enlongate the handle and blade
Shinzon
May 16 2004, 06:14 PM
lol, or stick to the ol regular screwdriver? that we all love and hate?
i really have nothing to do...
Mintman
May 16 2004, 07:39 PM
If you could circle where you want more detail in paint or something, post the pic and give me a rough idea of what you want there I'd be happy to oblige!
Jean_Luc_Picard
May 16 2004, 09:18 PM
Knife = Screwdriver
Pistol = Stapler
LMG = Nail Gun
HMG = dual, belt-fed-like-a-mofo nail guns
GL = Nail Grenade?
H/N = Nail Grenade?
Shinzon
May 16 2004, 09:37 PM
hmg could be a bigger cliped dual version of the nail gun...
Strabismo
May 16 2004, 09:46 PM
What about a rivet gun for HMG?
DragonEternal
May 18 2004, 11:23 AM
| QUOTE |
Knife = Screwdriver Pistol = Stapler LMG = Nail Gun HMG = dual, belt-fed-like-a-mofo nail guns GL = Nail Grenade? H/N = Nail Grenade? |
:-p no no Gl = explosive hammer shooter XD
And the Hand nade = explosive hammer
| QUOTE |
| If you could circle where you want more detail in paint or something, post the pic and give me a rough idea of what you want there I'd be happy to oblige! |
< see image >
Mintman
May 18 2004, 12:05 PM
Shazam.
Mintman
May 18 2004, 12:05 PM
new 3ds
DragonEternal
May 18 2004, 12:09 PM
looks good. Needs more 'used' look and for it to be in mdl format
Mintman
May 18 2004, 12:12 PM
I haven't meshed or skinned it. That's just flat colours applied to the model itself in cinema 4d.
DragonEternal
May 18 2004, 12:15 PM
Ah. I am noob to models :OP
Shinzon
May 18 2004, 01:27 PM
Now this is textured... HASHING!!! FEER THIS SCREWDRIVER
*edit*
should i make it bloody? and if yes waht colour? that greenish khara blood or red MARINE
*edit*
spelling...
Kitki
May 18 2004, 02:11 PM
This is sweet,, My knife is so going as this once it's done
Shinzon
May 18 2004, 03:16 PM
A couple of touch ups and the skulk blood ^^
Mintman
May 18 2004, 10:11 PM
hehe, that looks pretty cool. GJ!
Fancy sending a 3ds or ms3d file to me because I should be able to animate it now!
* picture's a stab and twist motion for attacking *
BigBull
May 19 2004, 12:45 AM
Put blood on the end of it.
Mintman
May 19 2004, 12:50 AM
He has, green alien blood.
Shinzon
May 19 2004, 10:06 AM
actualy this is just a max scene... with the texture.. i can send u the 3ds file of this with the texture...
Kitki
May 19 2004, 10:12 AM
That looks sweet... I should try modeling something.. <_<
Shinzon
May 19 2004, 10:38 AM
ok i pmed u with the 3ds file and the texture
DragonEternal
May 19 2004, 11:05 AM
Very nice Shizon. Now we need an animator

(twist attack? thought just jabing it sideways would do

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EDIT: Red please
Mintman
May 19 2004, 10:50 PM
Can you e-mail me that file, I can't seem to use the link you PMed me.
Also, it shouldn't be red blood, aliens blood is green. It would only be red if you were stabbing yourself.
Diablo_fx
May 20 2004, 12:02 AM
| QUOTE (DragonEternal @ May 15 2004, 01:15 AM) |
Maybe we should get soem peeps together after the mario conversion pack is semi-done. knife = screwdriver pistol = staple gun lmg = nail gun hmg = (chainsaw with loose teeth that fly off?) shotgun =  Gl = (hammer shooting machine?) |
knife = screwdriver
pistol = staple gun
lmg = nail gun
hmg = Heawy screwdriver aka advancet screwdriver
shotgun = advancet nail gun
Gl = advancet stample gun with explosives! OMG
Muzzleflash
May 20 2004, 02:58 AM
don mean ta interfere but why dont u model a big steel wrench?
the marines smashes it on the aliens' heads.....
sounds realistic for 30 dmg./..........
not a easy thing, but easier then a gun
try reanim it
Muzzleflash
May 20 2004, 02:59 AM
try adding blood to the wrench too if ya doin
*edit*
another suggestion: make a sledge hammer
but i think wrench is still better
CoolCookieCooks
May 20 2004, 03:49 AM
| QUOTE (DragonEternal @ May 19 2004, 11:05 AM) |
Very nice Shizon. Now we need an animator (twist attack? thought just jabing it sideways would do )
EDIT: Red please |
why not use the original ns animations? would need less work then
Mintman
May 20 2004, 05:09 AM
Yeah, I was going to do it for default anims first, then try doing it with some custom ones. I don't think the default slashing action would be too effective with a screwdriver, a nice stabbing action might be though!
DragonEternal
May 20 2004, 07:58 AM
Thing about the standard animations is that they would be
slashing and you dont slash with a screwdriver! you stab

(although the 3rd person animation for knife would still work just fine)
Update on possible other weapons!
Knife = Screwdriver
Pistol = Staple Gun
LMG = Basic Nail Gun (w/ Box clip)
HMG = Advanced Nail Gun (Chain Fed)
Shotgun = Shrapnel shooter (nuts bolts metal etc)
Hand Grenade = Hammer (like a stiehl grenade *aka potato masher*)
Grenade Launcher = Hammer shooter (would be VERY comic to see)
Mine = Moderatly large balls of nails (sorta like caltrops)
Welder = modern welder (duhh)
EDIT: Put a pick of a stiehlhand grenade for those who dont know what they look like.
Shinzon
May 20 2004, 10:42 AM
hmm i dont see your email anywhere... and the ns email system doesnt allow for attachments...
DragonEternal
May 20 2004, 10:56 AM
Evil NS email system
Drfuzzy
May 20 2004, 01:18 PM
| QUOTE (-=KORE=-Slim @ May 15 2004, 07:31 AM) |
| I was thinking more along the lines of Chainsaw knife. |
hmm i still have yet to do the rest of the doom sprites

(damn milkshapes animation smoothing bs, i dont wana assign 500 keyframes

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