heres my first crack at a weapon concept. i want to make some variations (like different handels, scopes, clips ect.) but i want to know if its even worth while. is anyone interisted in modeling it??? oh and this is free for anyone to expand on it.
well tell me what you think...
Full Version: [mcon]very Early Drum Clip Lmg
i like the basic design 
That's pretty wild...very minimal...not bad for your first..
Hey i like it, no pointless addons to it and simple, yet very sexy
nice 1 , reminds me of a rifle of Marathon Infinity which was able to shot under water, dont know the name
Looks übersexeh! I like the compact design of it, but maybe the CLIP(clip, clip, clip, clip, clip, I could do this until the end of time) is a bit fat? With a stock, and a little more bulk,it would go for HMG. This has to be modeled. *looks at Chrono* :P
/edit: Now that I look at it, I see a stock there. :P
/edit: Now that I look at it, I see a stock there. :P
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IT'S A FRIGGEN MAGAZINE!!!! STOP SAYING CLIP!!! IT'S NOT A CLIP! CLIPS OPERATE WITH THE AID OF GRAVITY LIKE A GARAND!!!
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i feel better now...
I like the design. Looks like a heavily modified Tompson base, which means dependability. Good job...
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holy f00k, how'd I manage 77 posts already???
IT'S A FRIGGEN MAGAZINE!!!! STOP SAYING CLIP!!! IT'S NOT A CLIP! CLIPS OPERATE WITH THE AID OF GRAVITY LIKE A GARAND!!!
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i feel better now...
I like the design. Looks like a heavily modified Tompson base, which means dependability. Good job...
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holy f00k, how'd I manage 77 posts already???
actualy, a clip is what holds the bullets into the magazine but....
very nice
Chrono u better model this!
very nice
Chrono u better model this!
| QUOTE (Ninja Burrito @ May 3 2004, 05:37 PM) |
| actualy, a clip is what holds the bullets into the magazine but.... very nice Chrono u better model this! |
o noes the spammer has arived
to model it i need nice clean pictures high resoultion preferable top veiew and front view if you want it to look right and a perspective view would greatly help
*glances at DS*
hey thats a neat lookin clip
hey thats a neat lookin clip
| QUOTE (Ninja Burrito @ May 3 2004, 05:37 PM) |
| actualy, a clip is what holds the bullets into the magazine but.... very nice Chrono u better model this! |
that's what I was talking about. These people were referring to the drum as a clip, instead of a magazine. Real "clip-fed" guns are those in which the magazine is part of the weapon, and where it is the "clip" that is "reloaded" each time, such as an M1 Garand.
| QUOTE (6john6doe6) |
| *glances at DS* hey thats a neat lookin clip |
*brain explodes*
THANK YOU FOR THE RESOPONSES!!!
I am definitely motivated to finish this project now...
but should i keep the design simple or add detail to it (i always feel my gun drawings lack detail.), also what do you guys think about the grip on the barrel, should i draw some other grips???
and about dream scars remark about this looking like a modified thompson, that is so true if fact i've been looking at thompsons online...
heres a pic of the drum magazine:
I am definitely motivated to finish this project now...
but should i keep the design simple or add detail to it (i always feel my gun drawings lack detail.), also what do you guys think about the grip on the barrel, should i draw some other grips???
and about dream scars remark about this looking like a modified thompson, that is so true if fact i've been looking at thompsons online...
heres a pic of the drum magazine:
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| http://www.auto-ordnance.com/ao_1927mag.html |
and heres technical info on the thompson:
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| http://www.nfatoys.com/tsmg/web/tsmgdata.htm |
I think these dimensions could help in the creation of the model...
also here is another page of preliminary drawings. notice the alternate stock?
above the profile view... i thought i'd tinker with a little more traditional stock but keep the old one for comparsion. oh and sorry the pic looks dirty... **** eraser!!!
next post will be with the following pics:
- views of the grip(with place holder stock, this is the only thing im sure is final right now)
-multiple views of the grip on the barrel(these are really hard to draw cause its hard to get the angle right)
-various other detail views
umm is there anything you guys want or need in terms of views for the next set of drawings???
stock is a bit short.
bigger and when your done drawing it can you pen it in nice and dark?
by bigger i mean higher resolution
by bigger i mean higher resolution
wow that's really nice. i hope someone models it for you.
looks like chrono is lining up to do it. am looking forward to this one
That stock looks a bit uncomfortable. Most fixed shoulder stocks have a curve to 'em to fit better against the shoulder and reduce pressure points. Folding or retractable stocks can get away with a flat butt because they need to be shaped to fit against the gun. 
well folks i made a final version of the gun again feel free to take this idea and change it, mutate it, and generally just go wild with it!!!
i didnt ink this cause i was afraid i'd lose detail and i didnt want it to look messy (lol it's already pretty dirty!!!)
the clip release which looks like the safety is actually the mag release and i think it should be on the other side(so the mag can easly be released my the thumb), but i put it there so it could be seen.
oh i also wanted to see this with a rifle stock mabe if this gets modeled we could get a version with a high tech looking rifle grip.
and another thing people might want to change is the barrel grip... it was designed for use in tight spaces but some might like the hands spaced a little farther apart.
oh yeah and finally what should it be called?!?!?!
i didnt ink this cause i was afraid i'd lose detail and i didnt want it to look messy
(lol it's already pretty dirty!!!)the clip release which looks like the safety is actually the mag release and i think it should be on the other side(so the mag can easly be released my the thumb), but i put it there so it could be seen.
oh i also wanted to see this with a rifle stock mabe if this gets modeled we could get a version with a high tech looking rifle grip.
and another thing people might want to change is the barrel grip... it was designed for use in tight spaces but some might like the hands spaced a little farther apart.
oh yeah and finally what should it be called?!?!?!
thank you for the nice straight lines
np cant wait to see this in 3d!!!
A name, you ask? What else? The p\/\/nz1n4t0r!!1
10 minute quick knock up:
I realise chrono has been setup do to this...but i was bored...it was this or progam a fruit machine...
I realise chrono has been setup do to this...but i was bored...it was this or progam a fruit machine...
for some odd reason someone posting a link to a very obscure gun in IRC today that reminded me of this
http://securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2800/2874.htm
http://securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2800/2874.htm
oh damn im creamin my self nice model!!!
i noticed you used the original stock grreat stuff!!!
i noticed you used the original stock grreat stuff!!!
| QUOTE (Revolver @ May 9 2004, 05:42 PM) |
| A name, you ask? What else? The p\/\/nz1n4t0r!!1 |
i think we have a name
introducing the p\/\/nz1n4t0r 3000!!!
can some one darken the image for me? its hard to work with a pure white backround
like this???
if need be i can darken it even more...
if need be i can darken it even more...
maybe one of the MS paint conceptors could throw a high-res paint concept together, to make it easier for modeling. Did you try asking one of those guys to do it?
that gun is actually quite well made, except for a few problems, the only major thing im concerned about is how scinny the drum is.... what is it shooting bb's???
<>silver falcon
<>silver falcon
I finally remember the name of the cutie, it was the flechette. I called it "elephant killer", cause the bullets of this beauty were big as shot gun ammo. it was a damn hell of gun, nothing could stop her! Here a pig, ähm make that pic 
Here in the Hands of the brave Bob.
the serial name of this gun was "KKV-7 SMG"
Here in the Hands of the brave Bob.
the serial name of this gun was "KKV-7 SMG"
| QUOTE (silverfalcon @ May 10 2004, 06:32 AM) |
| that gun is actually quite well made, except for a few problems, the only major thing im concerned about is how scinny the drum is.... what is it shooting bb's??? <>silver falcon |
It could easily hold 50 5.7x28mm rounds, which would make sense considering the amount of damage the LMG deals.
| QUOTE (Revolver @ May 10 2004, 02:04 PM) | ||
It could easily hold 50 5.7x28mm rounds, which would make sense considering the amount of damage the LMG deals. |
ty Revolver, you beat me to the point. this is a lmg replacement after all.
do not let this concept die!!!
i know because i my self cannot model that i am at the mersey of the modelers, but im hoping this bump will help keep it from fading into oblivion!
i know because i my self cannot model that i am at the mersey of the modelers, but im hoping this bump will help keep it from fading into oblivion!
i did the entire stock and handle part at 600 polies i doubt i will continue sorry abra if anyone needs the stock or handle let me know on AIM or MSN
dude, if chrono cant be buggered...i'll finish modelling it. Just gimme a couple o days cos of exams and stuff.
bam here is my crap
wow have any of you used a gun?
sure you can fit those tiny bullets in there but then i would consider them bbs!
and besides what about the workings of the drum and the outer casing? what you think a drum case is 100% hollow insside or that its paper thin? and whats this about
bullets should be small because the gun shoots pathetically
so what, we have to make the bullets bigger ever time we get a weapon upgrade?!
interesting how you guys think
btw its still a great gun design, if i wasn't so busy with my hl2 mods i help out and make it for you.
<>silver falcon
sure you can fit those tiny bullets in there but then i would consider them bbs!
and besides what about the workings of the drum and the outer casing? what you think a drum case is 100% hollow insside or that its paper thin? and whats this about
bullets should be small because the gun shoots pathetically
so what, we have to make the bullets bigger ever time we get a weapon upgrade?!
interesting how you guys think
btw its still a great gun design, if i wasn't so busy with my hl2 mods i help out and make it for you.
<>silver falcon
hl2 mods?
has it been released?
has it been released?
| QUOTE (silverfalcon @ May 12 2004, 04:53 PM) |
| wow have any of you used a gun? sure you can fit those tiny bullets in there but then i would consider them bbs! and besides what about the workings of the drum and the outer casing? what you think a drum case is 100% hollow insside or that its paper thin? and whats this about bullets should be small because the gun shoots pathetically so what, we have to make the bullets bigger ever time we get a weapon upgrade?! interesting how you guys think btw its still a great gun design, if i wasn't so busy with my hl2 mods i help out and make it for you. <>silver falcon |
dude its a game its alright if the gun doesnt make sense
| QUOTE (silverfalcon @ May 12 2004, 04:53 PM) |
| wow have any of you used a gun? sure you can fit those tiny bullets in there but then i would consider them bbs! and besides what about the workings of the drum and the outer casing? what you think a drum case is 100% hollow insside or that its paper thin? and whats this about bullets should be small because the gun shoots pathetically so what, we have to make the bullets bigger ever time we get a weapon upgrade?! interesting how you guys think btw its still a great gun design, if i wasn't so busy with my hl2 mods i help out and make it for you. <>silver falcon |
5.7x28mm (SS190) is used by the FN P90. They're shaped like AR rounds, and do a substantial bit of damage.
Chrono, the correct answer is 'nanites'.
| QUOTE (Ashaman Joe @ May 12 2004, 05:11 PM) |
| Chrono, the correct answer is 'nanites'. |
o ya i forgot the "official" answer to anything that doesnt make sense
you got a pic of your chrono?
just download the 3ds i dont feel like running max just to do a crap render of a crap handle
wow looks like this is going nowhere...
i'd like to thank everyone for there support during this project (and the criticism, it makes me try harder) but i've decided this is gonna be my first and only concept because as i said before i would do this but only if i had people to model it behind my from the get go...
again thank you all
oh and feel free to take this concept anywhere u want its totaly open for anyone to do what ever with it!!!
i'd like to thank everyone for there support during this project (and the criticism, it makes me try harder) but i've decided this is gonna be my first and only concept because as i said before i would do this but only if i had people to model it behind my from the get go...
again thank you all
oh and feel free to take this concept anywhere u want its totaly open for anyone to do what ever with it!!!
you shouldnt stop the udderone is still gonna model it and if i stop being so lazy ill retake it up
well chrono i'll play it by ear then...
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