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Shadepower
well this is something i been putting together... only good and helpful feedbacks plz...
no "it suck"... plz

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Griff-512
Well... ummm... looks good it just seems to cardboardish, maybe beefing it up?
hell even have tonage, could make the whole differance
Trex2
ehm i dunno they look good but for what gun..?
mm tounge.gif like both ^.^
Shadepower
QUOTE (Trex2004 @ Apr 30 2004, 08:06 AM)
ehm i dunno they look good but for what gun..?
mm tounge.gif like both ^.^

topic tounge.gif
mephmage
QUOTE (Shadepower @ Apr 30 2004, 07:44 AM)
well this is something i been putting together... only good and helpful feedbacks plz...
no "it suck"... plz

tounge.gif

haha, nice stealing mate!

Thats my concept, that you've modified ROUGHLY, same colours, same idea, same stuff.. tounge.gif


Awww man?

Edit: Check the original one.. tounge.gif
Edit2: Changed the size of the image
Shadepower
oi?
i havent stolen anything from u

mephmage
QUOTE (Shadepower @ Apr 30 2004, 08:09 AM)
oi?
i havent stolen anything from u

The colour scheme I use for that Yaztoch is Unique, you have saved my Yaztoch image on your Computer, opened it, and modified, therefore it still has parts that look identical to mine, and the exact same colours...
Trex2
now i c mmmm is it really stolen shade??
tell the treuth plz..
ohh well u 2 fight about it tounge.gif
whhehe have a nice concepting day smile.gif
Nottingham
I ahve made concept with white background, so have other people.
I have made concepts with blue backgrounds, so have other people both before and after me but we dont accuse each other for stealing the colors.
You dont have copyywright on any of the colors and there isnt any of your parts on the concept so pleas drop it.
If you know he was inspired by you then be proud that you have some influence instead of start whining about some colors.
Before you start flameing me. think about it... no really, think about it for just a sec.
mephmage
QUOTE (Nottingham @ Apr 30 2004, 08:21 AM)
I ahve made concept with white background, so have other people.
I have made concepts with blue backgrounds, so have other people both before and after me but we dont accuse each other for stealing the colors.
You dont have copyywright on any of the colors and there isnt any of your parts on the concept so pleas drop it.
If you know he was inspired by you then be proud that you have some influence instead of start whining about some colors.
Before you start flameing me. think about it... no really, think about it for just a sec.

Here's a length-check of the both concepts.

When you're a concept artist, you can recognize your own weaponry and its details easily.


The lengths are identical, and as you can see they look... VERY much the same, know why? Because they are the same..

Edit: oops wrong image, fixed
Mr_JeburtO
Do you see that word next to 'Forum Group:' in your account? Does it say 'Moderator'? No? Then stop acting like one.
esuna
Be nice.
mephmage
QUOTE (MR.JEBURTO @ Apr 30 2004, 08:45 AM)
mephmage i getting sick and tiered of u accusing people of stealing your designs. i think ive seen make such comments as that on almost every concept that has been made since u joined the forum.

Eheh.. This is the first time I ever accuse someone of ripping of my concepts, so watch what you type, because it might get you into trouble
mephmage
QUOTE (esuna @ Apr 30 2004, 08:50 AM)
You'll also all notice that if you put a picture of Orko next to each of the handles, it fits exactly!

Obvious theft!

Sigh, if you were actually god at anything Esuna you would know what I'm talking about, but obvious you're not, or you're just too silly to accept it
esuna
QUOTE (mephmage @ Apr 30 2004, 01:53 PM)
QUOTE (esuna @ Apr 30 2004, 08:50 AM)
You'll also all notice that if you put a picture of Orko next to each of the handles, it fits exactly!

Obvious theft!

Sigh, if you were actually god at anything Esuna you would know what I'm talking about, but obvious you're not, or you're just too silly to accept it

Damn yeah, i wish i was good at something... other than design, web design, playing 6+ musical instruments, sound production, lighting operation, singing, DJ'ing, sculpture, traditional art, photo manipulation and other things.... Man, i wish i could draw crappy MS Paint concepts.... You've got me, i'm jealous. I should throw in this degree i'm doing in graphic design to persue my love for MS Paint concepts.
mephmage
QUOTE (esuna @ Apr 30 2004, 08:56 AM)
QUOTE (mephmage @ Apr 30 2004, 01:53 PM)
QUOTE (esuna @ Apr 30 2004, 08:50 AM)
You'll also all notice that if you put a picture of Orko next to each of the handles, it fits exactly!

Obvious theft!

Sigh, if you were actually god at anything Esuna you would know what I'm talking about, but obvious you're not, or you're just too silly to accept it

Damn yeah, i wish i was good at something... other than design, web design, playing 6+ musical instruments, sound production, lighting operation, singing, DJ'ing, sculpture, traditional art, photo manipulation and other things.... Man, i wish i could draw crappy MS Paint concepts.... You've got me, i'm jealous. I should throw in this degree i'm doing in graphic design to persue my love for MS Paint concepts.

Heh, well if I were to make a list of things I can do you whouldnt have the patience to read it, so no point of showing off, eh?

And, using MS-Paint is perfection, means you have to do everything yourself, you cant smooth it with a button, you gotta do it yourself, you cant shade it with a button, you gotta do it yourself, etc. etc.
Mr_JeburtO
mephmage id just quit this argument now cause esuna is genna own your ****
wnn
QUOTE (esuna @ Apr 30 2004, 03:56 PM)
QUOTE (mephmage @ Apr 30 2004, 01:53 PM)
QUOTE (esuna @ Apr 30 2004, 08:50 AM)
You'll also all notice that if you put a picture of Orko next to each of the handles, it fits exactly!

Obvious theft!

Sigh, if you were actually god at anything Esuna you would know what I'm talking about, but obvious you're not, or you're just too silly to accept it

Damn yeah, i wish i was good at something... other than design, web design, playing 6+ musical instruments, sound production, lighting operation, singing, DJ'ing, sculpture, traditional art, photo manipulation and other things.... Man, i wish i could draw crappy MS Paint concepts.... You've got me, i'm jealous. I should throw in this degree i'm doing in graphic design to persue my love for MS Paint concepts.

owned ? D:
esuna
QUOTE (mephmage @ Apr 30 2004, 01:58 PM)
QUOTE (esuna @ Apr 30 2004, 08:56 AM)
QUOTE (mephmage @ Apr 30 2004, 01:53 PM)
QUOTE (esuna @ Apr 30 2004, 08:50 AM)
You'll also all notice that if you put a picture of Orko next to each of the handles, it fits exactly!

Obvious theft!

Sigh, if you were actually god at anything Esuna you would know what I'm talking about, but obvious you're not, or you're just too silly to accept it

Damn yeah, i wish i was good at something... other than design, web design, playing 6+ musical instruments, sound production, lighting operation, singing, DJ'ing, sculpture, traditional art, photo manipulation and other things.... Man, i wish i could draw crappy MS Paint concepts.... You've got me, i'm jealous. I should throw in this degree i'm doing in graphic design to persue my love for MS Paint concepts.

Heh, well if I were to make a list of things I can do you whouldnt have the patience to read it, so no point of showing off, eh?

And, using MS-Paint is perfection, means you have to do everything yourself, you cant smooth it with a button, you gotta do it yourself, you cant shade it with a button, you gotta do it yourself, etc. etc.

By that you mean "i'm like, 14, and can't afford professional image manipulation tools".
wnn
Here's a Concept for you ! it fits with this topic !

(you know i have it :p)
Mr_JeburtO
QUOTE (WoW_Nirss @ Apr 30 2004, 09:05 AM)
Here's a Concept for you ! it fits with this topic !

(you know i have it tounge.gif)

omg stolen!!!1111oneone

tounge.gif
mephmage
QUOTE (esuna @ Apr 30 2004, 09:02 AM)
QUOTE (mephmage @ Apr 30 2004, 01:58 PM)
QUOTE (esuna @ Apr 30 2004, 08:56 AM)
QUOTE (mephmage @ Apr 30 2004, 01:53 PM)
QUOTE (esuna @ Apr 30 2004, 08:50 AM)
You'll also all notice that if you put a picture of Orko next to each of the handles, it fits exactly!

Obvious theft!

Sigh, if you were actually god at anything Esuna you would know what I'm talking about, but obvious you're not, or you're just too silly to accept it

Damn yeah, i wish i was good at something... other than design, web design, playing 6+ musical instruments, sound production, lighting operation, singing, DJ'ing, sculpture, traditional art, photo manipulation and other things.... Man, i wish i could draw crappy MS Paint concepts.... You've got me, i'm jealous. I should throw in this degree i'm doing in graphic design to persue my love for MS Paint concepts.

Heh, well if I were to make a list of things I can do you whouldnt have the patience to read it, so no point of showing off, eh?

And, using MS-Paint is perfection, means you have to do everything yourself, you cant smooth it with a button, you gotta do it yourself, you cant shade it with a button, you gotta do it yourself, etc. etc.

By that you mean "i'm like, 14, and can't afford professional image manipulation tools".

Sigh..

You guys are so totally into the fact that you wanna be "cool" to eachother, which seems to work, but from my point of view you're just a bunch of silly little kids.

I dunno what its called, but when a group smokes cigarettes. None of'em wants to, but they all do it because they belive that the others in the group does it because its cool.

Recognize it?


Well, I've proven that he's ripped parts from my concepts, you cant accept it because it would make you look dumb, therefore you continue this immature crusade of yours to throw me in the dirt and get highest up in the circle.

Well it wont happen, because I've done what I was supposed to, and now im off, because I've got other things thats alot more important than arguing with you guys.

I guess you guys r gonna stay here and continue argue, but knock yourself out, since you aint got no life to attend to.

Babye

Mintman
Can I just say now that I've made a red pistol concept before so no-one can use red in a concept for any weapon ever again. In fact, as I made a rifle concept, no more concepts that look like rifles either. Or pistols for that matter.

Hell, you're in big trouble if you do a concept of a big red rifle!
QbT
memphis designs suck anyway,
mephmage
QUOTE (Mintman @ Apr 30 2004, 09:11 AM)
Can I just say now that I've made a red pistol concept before so no-one can use red in a concept for any weapon ever again. In fact, as I made a rifle concept, no more concepts that look like rifles either. Or pistols for that matter.

Hell, you're in big trouble if you do a concept of a big red rifle!

last reply just for you mintman, I configurated the colour scheme to be unique, none had ever used it before, etc. He uses the EXACT same colourscheme at the EXACT same place, the thing is that, if you save his image to your drive, and mine, you're gonna notice that it isnt possible to use any other colours (well you can, but its a gif image, therefore alot of colours are removed.)


Aight, im off, thats your answer, bye
Mintman
QUOTE (mephmage @ Apr 30 2004, 01:53 PM)
QUOTE (MR.JEBURTO @ Apr 30 2004, 08:45 AM)
mephmage i getting sick and tiered of u accusing people of stealing your designs. i think ive seen make such comments as that on almost every concept that has been made since u joined the forum.

Eheh.. This is the first time I ever accuse someone of ripping of my concepts, so watch what you type, because it might get you into trouble

From the [con]Fompson thread:
QUOTE (mephmage @ Apr 30 2004, 01:47 PM)
I dont want someone that doesnt deserve it get credits for something thats actually an idea of mine.
Mr_JeburtO
id just like to apologise to Shadepower for hyjacking his thread but the things here had to be said
esuna
QUOTE (mephmage @ Apr 30 2004, 02:11 PM)
Sigh..

You guys are so totally into the fact that you wanna be "cool" to eachother, which seems to work, but from my point of view you're just a bunch of silly little kids.

I dunno what its called, but when a group smokes cigarettes. None of'em wants to, but they all do it because they belive that the others in the group does it because its cool.

Recognize it?


Well, I've proven that he's ripped parts from my concepts, you cant accept it because it would make you look dumb, therefore you continue this immature crusade of yours to throw me in the dirt and get highest up in the circle.

Well it wont happen, because I've done what I was supposed to, and now im off, because I've got other things thats alot more important than arguing with you guys.

I guess you guys r gonna stay here and continue argue, but knock yourself out, since you aint got no life to attend to.

Babye

Funny that when you say you're off to "live your life" and criticise others for not doing so, you're still reading the thread.

Your argument seems to be flawed in serveral places. First being the fact i'm a "little kid", i can virtually guarentee i'm about 7 years senior, and why would i want to suck up to the NS Customisation forum, anyone else who knows me knows i rarely come here and i'm a mapping / off-topic forum goer.

And the thing you're talking about is "peer pressure". I think you may notice i wasn't "pressured" into posting from my "peers", considering i know very few regs in this part of the forums. So i guess i'm just doing it to look cool, right? Yeah, sure. It takes a person with a "real life" to think being popular on a forum is being "cool". Go out, get some real friends.

You've proven absolutely nothing with your "measurement analysis", which was the point i was trying to convey by using Orko (From the original He-Man, although i guess you're too young to remember that) as a unit of measurement.


Anyway, i notice by the time i've finished typing this post, you're still viewing the thread.... what happened to that "real life" you were going to "live"?


*EDIT: And MR.JEBURTO raises a good point, i too would like to apologise to the original thread author for hijacking this thread.
Bijiy
QUOTE (mephmage @ Apr 30 2004, 06:15 AM)
QUOTE (Mintman @ Apr 30 2004, 09:11 AM)
Can I just say now that I've made a red pistol concept before so no-one can use red in a concept for any weapon ever again. In fact, as I made a rifle concept, no more concepts that look like rifles either. Or pistols for that matter.

Hell, you're in big trouble if you do a concept of a big red rifle!

last reply just for you mintman, I configurated the colour scheme to be unique, none had ever used it before, etc. He uses the EXACT same colourscheme at the EXACT same place, the thing is that, if you save his image to your drive, and mine, you're gonna notice that it isnt possible to use any other colours (well you can, but its a gif image, therefore alot of colours are removed.)


Aight, im off, thats your answer, bye

You're into yourself way to much, its a bloody color scheme. Get over it, maybe by some freak deal with the devil we had to see something that looks like your stuff. Frankly you annoy me, and outright calling this new guy a thief doesn't help the NS community.
Trex2
SUYF ALL!!
STOP WHINING AND BLAMING EATCHOTHER!!
CLOSE THIS DAMN TOPIC THAN!!
BUT DUN MAKING freaking FIGHTS ABOUT A DAMN CONCEPT!!
OKE? good! tounge.gif
Ratonetwothreetwoone
Strike one.
QbT
Strike one.
Bijiy
Oh yeah, sorry about the little hijacking event shade.
Trex2
**** shut up all man!!
PPL MAKE CONCEPTS JUST FOR FUN AND WHAT U ALL DOO?!
WHINE IT BLAME IT AND FIGHT WITH EATCHOTHER!!
DO IT ON MSN OR MIRC OR SOMETHING BUT NOT ON THIS FORUM sad.gif
I'm really dispointed in u all guys sad.gif
Trojan
Four simple words: Law of Fair Use.
Fam
Four simple words: This Topic is locked

Please do not insult one another. Cases of theft should be reported to the appropriate moderator, not whined about for 3 pages.
coil
mephmage: in the future, please route all concerns about art theft through a moderator. Don't simply attack other posters. Bring it to our attention, and we'll look into it.

I've looked at the two drawings carefully. My opinion:
1) Shadepower started with mephmage's concept.
2) The stocks of both weapons have very similar elements, including a significant number of identical ones.

3) Shadepower drew over the rest of the gun, deleting mephmage's concept from his final piece (you can actually see many points where such deletions occurred, as Shadepower occasionally accidentally erased his own lines as well). That final piece, however, is vastly different from mephmage's. With the exception of the stock, which is ~50% different, the two concepts have nothing in common beyond their shared color schemes.

mephmage, I can see why you might be upset, but this is not concept theft. Shadepower, I'd suggest you work on a new, original stock for your model. Beyond that minor issue (and frankly, SP's alterations to the stock are pretty substantial), there's nothing worth arguing about here.

The rest of you: mephmage was *correct* if overzealous in his defense. Don't be so quick to jump on others. In fact, don't jump on others at all. If you have a problem, report the post.
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