Thanks, uhm nothing on the weapon is big and round like a disc, the big wooden thingy there is just an uncessecarily detail that.. Just makes it look a bit more futuristic, I think.

Maybe it would work as a barrelshield?

Yeah, perhaps it would, hm, but I didnt think of that at the time I made the handle, actually it was supposed to be a handgun

Want me to redraw the handle?

Sure. I've got an idea to make it a bit techier, but I'll respect that you don't wish us to modify it in any way

Well, Asking is never wrong, just because u actually didnt modify and are respectful u can modify it any way you want *yay Mephie is nice for a change!*

Well, I'll redraw it for you, if you want me to draw the Tech-thingys for ye, just PM me what it would be.

Btw, here's a pic of it from above, it aint no damn disc

w00t!

Let me know what you think. If it's bad, I can take it down

lol.. those look horrible, no offense...

My primary idea was to make it look like a Thompson... And urs doesnt look like one. And, u added a | thingy near the magazine, a magazine-release, which is totally unecessarily.

And it has no aiming thingy either?

Well I dont care if U keep'em or not, if urs is what ppl want then thats what they should get

Edit: They dont look futuristic at all, they look like regular modern weapons

ack sorry, I'm a rail freak, hehe

Ideally there'd be some sort of reflex sight on the upper rail

I won't post any more, keep up the good work

Argh i hate the "Ack"

Hey, they look nice, just not my taste.

U can post as much as u want, just no more of those plz hehe...

Nah, that's all I've got just a suggestion, but it's cool if you don't like it. I don't want to end up hijacking your thread!

see, the sight is built into the gun...

sigh, anyone interrested in asking me perhaps? Aww, nevermind, this will just end in flames because I wonder why none asks the concept artist before modeling...

But not for anyone to model, right? I for example doesnt like a certail person on these forums, therefore I dont want him to model it.

If you also read in my first post, you might notice the large red text saying:
"Do not modify ! Ask me, Mephmage, before usage of this image."

See? I havent done anything wrong this time

well, ya' see, short of going to a mod and complaining, you're doing all you can right about now...

Oewn CONSTANTLY rips my designs, and reuses parts, then claims it as his own work...i've told him time and again, to knock it off, but he still won't.....TECHNICALLY, i could sue him (or anyone else who does it) for stealing intelectual property, because i do actually hold copyrights on all marked images i make.....but i really don't have time to be suing some bloke over a **** drawing done in MS-Paint....if he keeps it up, i may, but i'd recommend you copyright your stuff....

Oh...by tha by...i noticed a few things about this rifle that look like ideas you ganked from me.....slick...don't do it again, please....

lol? Like WHAT have I taken?

Perhaps the magazine idea, to show it, but thats something between all concept artists, you borrow IDEAS from eachother, but I havent ripped anything from you, and what I know I havent taken any of your ideas either

And no...i never said you ripped parts or anything...you at least don't do that...it's direct translation of design elements (that you claimed you didn't even like in tha first place) that i mind......saying "hey, that's kinda cool, i wanna do something like that" is one thing......seeing it and saying "Hmm..i'm gonna copy that" is something else altogether...

so yeah...design element....tha mag idea...tha cross section, tha windows in tha mag, tha stacked round diagram...all stuff i did first...

You whine about how stupid tha inner/outer shell design on a mag is, and if someone hits it, it's going to blow up......then you use it?...Hypocrisy anyone?

oh yeah, and your attitude is rubbish as well...why don't you brinig it down a notch or 2?

Heh, I borrow ideas because people like it, I never said I like my own concepts?



Btw. Here is something for you guys who want something... Else heh...

Edit: Err, noticed a problem on it, fixed though!

Well then...that was a thoroughly useless statement....

nowhere did i say you like your concepts....and if you don't like them, why draw them?

as far as you ganking ideas and design elements "because people like it"....i think you're mistaken...i don't think tha general concensus on theft is that it's a GOOD thing....i tend to believe that people find theft rather distasteful....


now before you start any crap about tha fact that I MYSELF borrow design concepts from real guns....it's not tha same thing....if they were concept artwork, it would be tha same thing.....they're real guns. If i were borrowing design elements from real guns, to make a real gun, THEN it would be a bad thing....see, when you transfer tha medium, tha rule stays tha same, but when tha 2 mediums are different, it's not...

anyways...it's still screwed up, please don't do it again, m'kay?

I dont rip anything from anyone, I borrow ideas, they dont look the same, they're just based on stuff that other ppl have made, like real guns, or other ppls concepts, toys etc.

If I draw a handgun, then you draw a handgun, isnt that stealing from me? Because I made a handgun first, then you ripped my idea and made a handgun yourself?

Aww man, grow up, ur logics stink.



And I dont whine, Im trying to get him to understand certain facts, which he doesnt wanna realize.

Putting my hand in the position based on the size of the gun, yes, it would be extremely uncomfortable to hold. Because combined with the short stock, the badly placed thumb hole and the ridiculous angle of the grip, you've got to keep your hand in an extremely awkward position with your elbow stuck out really far and really tight. Horrible design if you ask me.

Also,you better pray that the bolt doesn't move at all, because if it does, that sucker's gonna take your eye out.

I mean sure, it looks ok, i guess, but aestetics kinda take a second place to common sense.



Also, all this talk of concept theft and the like. Meph, get over it. You posted them on a public forum and you should be **** grateful that someone would put out their own time to work on your concept. So what if you don't like that person? They obviously hold no grudge against you otherwise they wouldn't waste their time on your concept. You're acting like a **** child, grow up. Besides, with the talk in another thread about a stolen concept, guess what, you stole this concept from a Thompson. Oh? What was that? Inspiration they call it.... sure....

I tried to make it ergonomic, the angle of the handle is identical to my air-soft gun hunting rifle, so it should work. it doesnt have a hole though, but a \___/ on top of it, or well u get my point.


And WTH are you talking about?
It was acid-snake who said that I were stealing stuff, not vice versa...
So flame at him, not at me, I just said that it aint stealing if you get ideas from someone elses concepts.

No, I wont let a guy that thinks rape, murder, pedophilia, woman abuse etc. is right, model my concept, that would make me look bad, and since Im against all of those things, then I wont support that person.

I dont want someone that doesnt deserve it get credits for something thats actually an idea of mine.

thank u esuna you've but my thoughts across exactly

both towards the concept and the attitude of mephmage

HAHA!

Funny Jeager...

A pict. rail is really a generic standard that just about ALL guns employ...i wouldn't say it's tha same thing...

i'm not whining, i'm simply pointing out facts, and expressing concern...there's a HUGE difference....

if you look at tha design he used (For the mag) though...Structure-wise, it's a dead copy of what i did...and may i point out yet again that he bashed that design element at tha time, yet he's using it now....hypocrisy, AND unoriginality...2 for 2 so far....



i haven't seen any of your designs...or at least i don't think i have...PM me an example?....