Haze
Mar 19 2004, 09:05 PM
I've always been intrested in mapping. I've drawen more layouts than I can count inches around the world, and I'm itching to get some down to 3d. The only problem is that I can only do brushwork, which is (I believe?) a majority of the mapping process, I dont understand yet how to do entitys, lighting, actually anything besides brushwork!
Where did you guys learn to map?
ShenTraX
Mar 19 2004, 09:23 PM
umm... I started to map for HL about '99 for TFC and then did some mappin' for CS, before it went retail (it was so much better back then).
I recently start back up, due to NS inspiring me. Most of what i learned I learned from tutorials and playing around, and if i couldn't make it work, i hung out at vlatitude.com ( i think i still have an account there, lol)
Of course i never released any work from those days, it was more of seeing what i could do. I constantly ran into Mappers-block a lot (currently there now on my new map). But at least i released 2 (if you can call it 2) maps for NS.
After all that trial and error, i try to help newcommers, like yourself. So if you need something, or can think of it, but can't get hammer to do it... ask in this forum (usually a new post per problem).
Happy mapping.
Haze
Mar 19 2004, 10:34 PM
Thanks, could you post the sites or where you got the tutorials from?
Night_Eagle
Mar 19 2004, 11:15 PM
Hmm...I just experimented with the brushes and looked at The Whole Half-Life for help along the way...you can't be stupid and map at the same time...
http://cariad.co.za/twhl/tutorialbrowse.php?tuttype=1It'll take you a day or two to get the hang of it...and about a month to really know what to do.
MasterMike
Mar 20 2004, 02:56 AM
Just screwin' with hammer, trying to get it to do stuff. Looking at other NS maps inspired me and I felt compelled to make NS maps. Whenever I just couldn't get something to work the way I wanted it to, I'd find a random tutorial somewhere. Just play around with it, best way.
Sops
Mar 20 2004, 06:05 AM
I'm still learning but
this seems to be a really good site
Thaldarin
Mar 20 2004, 10:00 AM
I started off mapping for probably the easiest game in the world, Duke Nukem 3D. Brushwork was essentially 2D textures which were walls, it was like a drag and drop DOS editor. I don't remember much as I was extremely young at the time.
For Half-Life I started on WC3.3, and could never get my head round any of the tutorials I saw, after I did "learn how to map" I found that most if not all tutorials I had read on beginning to map took the long, difficult and worst ways.
I just started putting blocks (brushes) together, trying to align the textures (which at first was very fiddly) then I looked up how to create lighting, what an entity was, the types (brush + point) then compiling. After I had compiled a small blocky DM map I went on to see some simple tutorials on how to shape things, vertexing and clip. By this time I had learned the essentials to mapping, over the past 6-8 months I've learn't about rotations, flipping, skies, what makes a map, what the entities do, how some things are created etc.
The best way I find is to fiddle around in an editor, its helping me with Radiant. Although Radiant has some bloody brilliant tutorials which are easy to follow, unlike the native HL editor.
| QUOTE |
| I'm still learning but this seems to be a really good site |
You are joking? I hope you are, if you need any tutorials try VERC or Snarkpit. Not the 'block square' mapping technique from that site.
Avitar
Mar 20 2004, 06:37 PM
Kouji_San
Mar 21 2004, 01:03 AM
mapping for a long time now

doom1 and 2 (deu2 map editor)
Duke Nukem 3d (build 3d)
HL mapping since 1998-ish (worldcraft and now hammer)
Unreal, Quake meh even some 2d mapping thingies for dungeon keeper 2 and starcraft type games...
tutorials? hmm lets see now, meh
Avitar already put down one of the best and my personal favourat...
http://cariad.co.za/twhl/tutorialbrowse.php?tuttype=1it has all the basic mapping tuts you need to start your basic architechture, lighting and how to use entities etc...
Jezpuh
Mar 21 2004, 02:31 AM
Just messing with Hammer, if I say I learned everything by myself, I mean it.
But yeah, I have a mappers-block all the time.. so. :\
Cagey
Mar 21 2004, 04:29 AM
| QUOTE (Maverick102 @ Mar 19 2004, 10:05 PM) |
| I'm still learning but this seems to be a really good site |
It'd be more impressive if large chunks of it weren't plagiarized.
Caboose
Mar 21 2004, 05:29 AM
| QUOTE (XP-Cagey @ Mar 20 2004, 10:29 PM) |
| QUOTE (Maverick102 @ Mar 19 2004, 10:05 PM) | | I'm still learning but this seems to be a really good site |
It'd be more impressive if large chunks of it weren't plagiarized.
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A lot.
And me, I learned how to map with just playing around with WC (shortly before it changed to VHE)
It took me a week to figure out how to make more than one brush

Now, I know how to use VHE, QuArK and GTK Radiant (Radiant pwns j00)
DEADscott
Mar 21 2004, 10:19 PM
I learned to map here, on these forums.
Insane
Mar 23 2004, 06:26 PM
After going through the Wavelength tutorials (I can't find a link for these, sorry), I basically learned everything I now know just by mapping and trial and error. Of course, these forums and
The Collective have proved invalulable for picking up bits of information and so on.
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