While playing with 2 different hi lighters I stumbled upon an question: Why not let a marine in NS be able throw 2 grenades at a time? In real life, it is possible to throw 2 hand grenades at a time, just it isn't something to be used on a regular basis. Of course being able to throw 2 grenades may bring up some balance issues, so here are my proposed solutions:

• Priming time for each grenade is multiplied ~1.5 times. [The logical explanation would be that it requires more time to properly handle both grenades].
• Accuracy of both grenades is reduced slightly. When the player releases the grenades, the two grenades head off in 2 slightly different trajectories.
• Delay between detonation of each grenade varies from 0.5 to 1.5 seconds.
• Self damage when the grenades detonate is is multiplied 1.5 times per grenade. [The logical explanation would be that shrapnel from the second grenade further worsens the wounds from the first grenade].

I think it would be a neat addition because it would give the player more flexibility as to what he can do. It would only be a minor change and the disadvantages would discourage the use of this feature on a regular basis, while still making it a viable option. It would provide for a good desperation tactic for a marine, helping tipping the tides in a 1 on 1 dogfight.

Sorry for the funny English... tired right now.

how would you throw 2 grenades at once though? your thumbs would need to be as strong as your forearm just pull the pins out " in real life"

Thats what your teeth are for.

Sounds overpowered. It'd be like bringing back the more powerful grenades before they got nerfed a while back.

True but also remember that both grenades are used. Any decent player would know that: Grenade + 2 - 3 LMG bullets = dead skulk. So really this idea wouldn't be the best choice against skulks (except for packs of them), let alone being a bad choice in general.

What I think it may be overpowered is that being able to throw 2 grenades would bring a lerk down to ~25 hp with 2 direct hits (or near direct hits). It would then just take a few bullets to kill the lerk, which is a little unfair. Also if the marines have level 2 weapons, it's 2 nade kill for lerks.

Maybe if the time to change back to an LMG from throwing the grenades was doubled and if the second grenade's damage is reduced 20%, it would be more fair to the lerks. [Explanations could be that the marine needs to spit out the grenade pins (assuming he uses his teeth) and the first grenade's explosion damages the second grenade, respectively].

What you gonna do? Throw one with each hand? I'd like to see ANY sort of accuracy. Two in one hand? Don't make me laugh. You're more likely to drop one and blow yourself up then you are to hit any sort of target.

I can KIND of see this working in NS2. The way I would see it implemented is that the marine pulls out the pins one at a time, so one grenade would go off about .5 seconds before the other. When you throw them, yes I like the idea that their initial accuracy is decreased significantly. Furthermore, using the source engine, the first grenades explosion would knock the other grenade off in a rather random direction, which would then explode .5 seconds later probably in a different area.

The reason in general I don't like this idea is that it introduces too much chance and randomness. I like control when I play games. In fact, had I been playing as seriously back then as I am now, I'm sure I would have preffered the old shotgun style with no falloff damage and the exact same spread everytime,

Of course, I realize that the changes to the shotgun are much more balanced and fair now (except maybe there is too much falloff damage now? I mean, bullets don't slow down THAT much...)

there is nothing realistic about this idea

Sure it is. In real life, you could pull the pins out of 2 grenades if you wanted to. Maybe you even throw 1 before the other blows up, but realism is hardly the point, now right?

I find myself throwing one nade after the other quite often, however I would like to see the grenades last longer but be cookable before the 2 in 1... At the most grenades need to bounce more to encourage creative use, ie off walls around corners etc.

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don't see why the 2 grenades can't be a metamod plugin
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so why mention real life in the original post lol

Because you said that a reason for not doing it is realism, but it IS realistic, so that point is moot.

Then I say that even if it wasn't realisitic, it doesn't matter, as long as it somewhat believable and beneficial to gameplay.

no.

i didnt say it wasnt possible, i said it wasnt realistic

lol... anyone here seen the rock? "one, two, three, eat this!" *2 grenades tumble toward sean connery*. Guess it could work but im thinking it would be more of a cool novelty than a useful addition to the game.

lol.

Teeth pulled.

totally awesome, but we'd need grenades to actually be able to roll instead of mexican jumping beans