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gen_hoey
the reason im posting this is i go to counter strike web sites and halflife web sites and look at all the diff skins but what i want to know is whats the diff between the diff skins for the diff. mods if anyone knows and how i go about changing the skins to fit in with natural selection and vica versa the help would be greatly apreciated

asrifle.gif Die ALien skulk.gif Ill get u turret.gif skulk.gif Oh noooooooooooooooooooo! asrifle.gif he He HE tiny.gif "chuckle" asrifle.gif Oh **obscenity**! not good!
Evintos
If I'm not mistaken, some models for different mods will work for NS. A friend of mines tried a AWP model (From Counter Strike of course) and replaced it with the Grenade Launcher model in NS. It actually worked for some strange reason, but problem is the reloading and animations was horribly screwed up.

Normally, if you want to replace a weapon model, or any model, all you have to do is download the new model, and replace the old model file.
Necro
QUOTE (Evintos @ Nov 10 2002, 02:29 AM)
If I'm not mistaken, some models for different mods will work for NS. A friend of mines tried a AWP model (From Counter Strike of course) and replaced it with the Grenade Launcher model in NS.

why oh why would anyone wanna do that? i can't see the logic!

Evintos
I could always ask him, but he ain't online as of now. But for me, I'd actually like to see a P90 for the light machine gun, dont ask why, I just think that gun looks kinda weird and semi-futuristic.
Necro
QUOTE (Evintos @ Nov 10 2002, 02:42 AM)
I could always ask him, but he ain't online as of now. But for me, I'd actually like to see a P90 for the light machine gun, dont ask why, I just think that gun looks kinda weird and semi-futuristic.

yea true, but awp i mean come on!
Vecdran
user posted image
Skin: The details of the gun, what makes it look like a gun. It is layered over the model.

user posted image
Model: The 3d model that makes it...well..3d

Combine the two:
user posted image
Note that most models use multiple "meshes" which is what makes up the skin of the gun. The 1st picture is one of several "meshes" that make up the total look of the gun.
Vecdran
Here is the reason you animations were messed up Evintos.

Animations
Note the difference between the following two pictures:
user posted image
user posted image

Different names, different orders. VERY rarely will a model work if it is directly taken from one mod and put in another. To get it to work, the model must be opened up in a 3d modelling program, such as Milkshape, and the animations renamed and reorganized.
Evintos
I was just suprised it worked in the first place. Sure I knew that the animations would be screwed up but I never expected the model to actually show up without crashing NS or something.
Vecdran
oh hl models will always work with every mod, just not properly
def_one
yep, all it requires is that the animations be in the same order.

doesnt hurt to have the animation lengths be the same too, otherwise you can get cutoff/dead time
Vecdran
QUOTE (def_one @ Nov 10 2002, 06:05 AM)
yep, all it requires is that the animations be in the same order.

doesnt hurt to have the animation lengths be the same too, otherwise you can get cutoff/dead time

um...no

the names have to be the same too
BiTMAP
yeah And if thats how the model looks WOW biggrin.gif I wish there were liek refraction maps and stuff in HL :O! (like ut2k3)... this mod rawks great poly models.
def_one
QUOTE (Vecdran @ Nov 10 2002, 06:10 AM)
um...no

the names have to be the same too

betcha they dont.

saaay... $5.00
Dirty_J
he is right, speaking of animating

def do you got NS hands in max so i can make a new lmg animation for a pulse rifle, pulse rifle doesnt reload from the side so bleh i cant really use defaults
Akanit
Could you plz post a link to the
HL Model viewer??
ALso, is the weaponskins just
ordinary sprites?
I'm trying to learn this stuff.
I'm adept at 3dsmax and a semi poor
2d'er sad.gif
Haven't been interested in
modeling for games until NS
came along.
Tnx.

Akanit
Surge
Dirty, just make the hands use their psychic powers. tounge.gif
MonsieurEvil
(de-aging topic)
Vecdran
Just search for Half-Life model viewer on google.

And no, skins are not sprites. They are 256 color bitmaps applied to a model.
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